Overclock.net › Forums › Specialty Builds › Small Form Factor Systems › Moving to a Bitfenix Prodigy
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Moving to a Bitfenix Prodigy - Page 2

post #11 of 41
Thread Starter 
So, as this is in a living room, noise is a concern.

My TRUE is trusted and it'll take a lot to pry me away from it. I'd consider a H60, but pump noise could be a deal breaker - does shaking a H60 really cut down the noise the pump makes? That sounds odd.

I guess at this point there're two main concerns re: the mobo:

1) Will it fit my TRUE and 6950

2) Does it OC

As I'm trying to keep this fairly cheap, I think a £111 or £144 mobo is perhaps a bit more than I'd like to spend. If I give up OC'ing (i.e. don't go with a Z77 mobo) then can I still find a board which'll allow me to fit my TRUE?
HAL 9005
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 6600K Asus z170i Pro Gaming Nvidia 1070 Inno3D 8 GB 2x8GB 3200 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
256GB Samsung 830D + 2TB WD Eco Green + 2TB WD Red External, for silence's sake.  Corsair GTX H100i  6xEKV Vardar 2250 PWM rpm slaved to AOI 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
W10 64 Dell U2515H 1440p CM Storm Quickfire Red w/ O-rings Seasonic M12 700W modular 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Carbide Air 240 Logitech G700s CM Storm G930 
  hide details  
Reply
HAL 9005
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 6600K Asus z170i Pro Gaming Nvidia 1070 Inno3D 8 GB 2x8GB 3200 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
256GB Samsung 830D + 2TB WD Eco Green + 2TB WD Red External, for silence's sake.  Corsair GTX H100i  6xEKV Vardar 2250 PWM rpm slaved to AOI 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
W10 64 Dell U2515H 1440p CM Storm Quickfire Red w/ O-rings Seasonic M12 700W modular 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Carbide Air 240 Logitech G700s CM Storm G930 
  hide details  
Reply
post #12 of 41
The loudest Corsair cooler out of the three I've had is the H50. I didn't shake the crap out of it though, but I can honestly say when I put the sides on the case I can't hear the pump. I never had any noise at all from my H70 (none that I detected anyway), and although my H100 gives off a little sort of rattle every once in a while (haven't heard it in ages), from my desk seat I can't hear it either.

I have a laptop cooler under my PS3 in my living room. It has a 200mm fan in it, and it's louder than my water cooler pumps are. Even so, it's looks like it's not exactly simple to get a water cooler to fit in some of the smaller cases though, but if I was putting together a HTPC I think I'd want to give it a try. Sounds like fun.
Nukeyork
(24 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i7 4770k ASUS Sabertooth Z87 MSI Radeon RX480 Gaming X 8GB MSI Radeon RX480 Gaming X 8GB 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
16G Kingston 1600MHz Corsair Force Series SSD 180GB Crucial MX300 SSD 525GB Western Digital WD10EALS 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
ASUS BW-12B1ST Blu-ray RW Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate Windows 10 64 pro LG 34UM65-P 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Hcman Zhuque Teamwolf Mechanical Corsair AX750 Corsair 760T Steel Series Sensei Wireless Gaming Mouse 
Mouse PadAudioOtherOther
Steel Series 4HD Pro On Board Thermaltake X 5G Superspeed USB 3.0 Hard Drive ... Logitech Driving Force GT Steering Wheel 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas X Joystick NZXT Hue LED Controller Razer Orbweaver Chroma RGB Mechanical Gaming Co... Ergotron LX Desk Mount LCD Arm 
  hide details  
Reply
Nukeyork
(24 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i7 4770k ASUS Sabertooth Z87 MSI Radeon RX480 Gaming X 8GB MSI Radeon RX480 Gaming X 8GB 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
16G Kingston 1600MHz Corsair Force Series SSD 180GB Crucial MX300 SSD 525GB Western Digital WD10EALS 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
ASUS BW-12B1ST Blu-ray RW Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate Windows 10 64 pro LG 34UM65-P 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Hcman Zhuque Teamwolf Mechanical Corsair AX750 Corsair 760T Steel Series Sensei Wireless Gaming Mouse 
Mouse PadAudioOtherOther
Steel Series 4HD Pro On Board Thermaltake X 5G Superspeed USB 3.0 Hard Drive ... Logitech Driving Force GT Steering Wheel 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas X Joystick NZXT Hue LED Controller Razer Orbweaver Chroma RGB Mechanical Gaming Co... Ergotron LX Desk Mount LCD Arm 
  hide details  
Reply
post #13 of 41
Thread Starter 
OK, let's pick a mobo.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=5&subid=2071

(that's just the overclockers product list, I'll probably buy from scan if I can)

So...

Asus H77 - SATA III, cheap, on board graphics just in case. No OC'ing though. £82.

Asrock Z77 - SATA III, OC'ing options, on board graphics. £120

The thing is, both of these have CPU sockets right next to the GPU. I'll need a new cooler with any of them frown.gif

Halp?
HAL 9005
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 6600K Asus z170i Pro Gaming Nvidia 1070 Inno3D 8 GB 2x8GB 3200 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
256GB Samsung 830D + 2TB WD Eco Green + 2TB WD Red External, for silence's sake.  Corsair GTX H100i  6xEKV Vardar 2250 PWM rpm slaved to AOI 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
W10 64 Dell U2515H 1440p CM Storm Quickfire Red w/ O-rings Seasonic M12 700W modular 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Carbide Air 240 Logitech G700s CM Storm G930 
  hide details  
Reply
HAL 9005
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 6600K Asus z170i Pro Gaming Nvidia 1070 Inno3D 8 GB 2x8GB 3200 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
256GB Samsung 830D + 2TB WD Eco Green + 2TB WD Red External, for silence's sake.  Corsair GTX H100i  6xEKV Vardar 2250 PWM rpm slaved to AOI 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
W10 64 Dell U2515H 1440p CM Storm Quickfire Red w/ O-rings Seasonic M12 700W modular 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Carbide Air 240 Logitech G700s CM Storm G930 
  hide details  
Reply
post #14 of 41
With the Asrock you also get, wifi and an mSATA slot.

Up to you. Zotac H77 (still unreleased) has all the advantage of the Z77 boards like wifi/mSATA.

If you do buy a new cooler, are you looking for air or AIO water?
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 3450S Asus P8H77-I AMD HD7790 G.Skill Sniper  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
WD Scorpio Black OCZ Vertex II Samsung HD204UI Samsung HD204UI 
Hard DriveMonitorKeyboardPower
Samsung HD204UI LG L246WP Razer Blackwidow Ultimate PicoPSU-160-XT 
CaseMouseAudio
My desk Razer DeathAdder 3.5G Fiio E10 USB DAC 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel i7-3615QM GT 650m Samsung Crucial M4 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
Seagate ST1000LM024 HN-M101MBB Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit 17.3" 1920x1080 Delta SADP-90FH D 90W 
MouseAudio
Logitech M505 Fiio E10 
  hide details  
Reply
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 3450S Asus P8H77-I AMD HD7790 G.Skill Sniper  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
WD Scorpio Black OCZ Vertex II Samsung HD204UI Samsung HD204UI 
Hard DriveMonitorKeyboardPower
Samsung HD204UI LG L246WP Razer Blackwidow Ultimate PicoPSU-160-XT 
CaseMouseAudio
My desk Razer DeathAdder 3.5G Fiio E10 USB DAC 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel i7-3615QM GT 650m Samsung Crucial M4 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
Seagate ST1000LM024 HN-M101MBB Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit 17.3" 1920x1080 Delta SADP-90FH D 90W 
MouseAudio
Logitech M505 Fiio E10 
  hide details  
Reply
post #15 of 41
Thread Starter 
Wifi I'm not bothered about - I use hard cabling at all times for my gaming rig.

H77 is just Z77 minus the OC'ing then?

My primary concerns are money and noise. If I move away from my TRUE I'll incur quite a bit of cost, but I can see there would be advantages. Primarily that I could actually fit a cooler on the board! I've not seen a m-ITX board where a tower cooler like a TRUE will actually fit when a large GPU like a 6950 is attached frown.gif
HAL 9005
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 6600K Asus z170i Pro Gaming Nvidia 1070 Inno3D 8 GB 2x8GB 3200 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
256GB Samsung 830D + 2TB WD Eco Green + 2TB WD Red External, for silence's sake.  Corsair GTX H100i  6xEKV Vardar 2250 PWM rpm slaved to AOI 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
W10 64 Dell U2515H 1440p CM Storm Quickfire Red w/ O-rings Seasonic M12 700W modular 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Carbide Air 240 Logitech G700s CM Storm G930 
  hide details  
Reply
HAL 9005
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 6600K Asus z170i Pro Gaming Nvidia 1070 Inno3D 8 GB 2x8GB 3200 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
256GB Samsung 830D + 2TB WD Eco Green + 2TB WD Red External, for silence's sake.  Corsair GTX H100i  6xEKV Vardar 2250 PWM rpm slaved to AOI 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
W10 64 Dell U2515H 1440p CM Storm Quickfire Red w/ O-rings Seasonic M12 700W modular 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Carbide Air 240 Logitech G700s CM Storm G930 
  hide details  
Reply
post #16 of 41
H77 is just Z77 without overclocking, yes.

Yeah that's one of the problems of SFF. If you want to use the TRUE you'd have to stick with a Asus P8Z77-I board. There are a few centralized sockets on H77/H67 but they're a bit harder to find.
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 3450S Asus P8H77-I AMD HD7790 G.Skill Sniper  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
WD Scorpio Black OCZ Vertex II Samsung HD204UI Samsung HD204UI 
Hard DriveMonitorKeyboardPower
Samsung HD204UI LG L246WP Razer Blackwidow Ultimate PicoPSU-160-XT 
CaseMouseAudio
My desk Razer DeathAdder 3.5G Fiio E10 USB DAC 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel i7-3615QM GT 650m Samsung Crucial M4 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
Seagate ST1000LM024 HN-M101MBB Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit 17.3" 1920x1080 Delta SADP-90FH D 90W 
MouseAudio
Logitech M505 Fiio E10 
  hide details  
Reply
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 3450S Asus P8H77-I AMD HD7790 G.Skill Sniper  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
WD Scorpio Black OCZ Vertex II Samsung HD204UI Samsung HD204UI 
Hard DriveMonitorKeyboardPower
Samsung HD204UI LG L246WP Razer Blackwidow Ultimate PicoPSU-160-XT 
CaseMouseAudio
My desk Razer DeathAdder 3.5G Fiio E10 USB DAC 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel i7-3615QM GT 650m Samsung Crucial M4 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
Seagate ST1000LM024 HN-M101MBB Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit 17.3" 1920x1080 Delta SADP-90FH D 90W 
MouseAudio
Logitech M505 Fiio E10 
  hide details  
Reply
post #17 of 41
The choice of cooling will ultimately come down to what motherboard you end up choosing. If you go with the AsRock z77, then you'll need to get a new cooler.
If you get a H50, then you'll need to mod the backplate. See this thread. Also, the hydro series (and other AIO) are loud. More so if you're overclocking.
367
I think the above image does sum up the performance/noise ratio between air cooling and AIO's.

And if you end up going with the Asus itx board, it will cost more than the AsRock alternative but means you can keep your ultra 120.
Here are 3 benchmarks between H70/H50 vs the Ultra 120:
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/corsair_h70/4.htm
http://www.guru3d.com/article/corsair-h70-review/8
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/Corsair_H60/4.html

You can see that the Ultra 120 keeps up with the AIO's quite nicely.

If you had to choose between the two z77 itx boards, then it comes down to whether you want better cooling (while being louder) with an AIO or a better motherboard (Yes, I would say that the Asus itx board is better) with an overall quieter cooler that'll have no problem cooling your CPU.
post #18 of 41
Most of the reviews use the stock fans. There are MUCH better fans for rads out there that would change the performance of the AIO coolers.
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 3450S Asus P8H77-I AMD HD7790 G.Skill Sniper  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
WD Scorpio Black OCZ Vertex II Samsung HD204UI Samsung HD204UI 
Hard DriveMonitorKeyboardPower
Samsung HD204UI LG L246WP Razer Blackwidow Ultimate PicoPSU-160-XT 
CaseMouseAudio
My desk Razer DeathAdder 3.5G Fiio E10 USB DAC 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel i7-3615QM GT 650m Samsung Crucial M4 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
Seagate ST1000LM024 HN-M101MBB Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit 17.3" 1920x1080 Delta SADP-90FH D 90W 
MouseAudio
Logitech M505 Fiio E10 
  hide details  
Reply
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 3450S Asus P8H77-I AMD HD7790 G.Skill Sniper  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
WD Scorpio Black OCZ Vertex II Samsung HD204UI Samsung HD204UI 
Hard DriveMonitorKeyboardPower
Samsung HD204UI LG L246WP Razer Blackwidow Ultimate PicoPSU-160-XT 
CaseMouseAudio
My desk Razer DeathAdder 3.5G Fiio E10 USB DAC 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel i7-3615QM GT 650m Samsung Crucial M4 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
Seagate ST1000LM024 HN-M101MBB Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit 17.3" 1920x1080 Delta SADP-90FH D 90W 
MouseAudio
Logitech M505 Fiio E10 
  hide details  
Reply
post #19 of 41
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ma15 View Post

The choice of cooling will ultimately come down to what motherboard you end up choosing. If you go with the AsRock z77, then you'll need to get a new cooler.
If you get a H50, then you'll need to mod the backplate. See this thread. Also, the hydro series (and other AIO) are loud. More so if you're overclocking.
367
I think the above image does sum up the performance/noise ratio between air cooling and AIO's.
And if you end up going with the Asus itx board, it will cost more than the AsRock alternative but means you can keep your ultra 120.
Here are 3 benchmarks between H70/H50 vs the Ultra 120:
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/corsair_h70/4.htm
http://www.guru3d.com/article/corsair-h70-review/8
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/Corsair_H60/4.html
You can see that the Ultra 120 keeps up with the AIO's quite nicely.
If you had to choose between the two z77 itx boards, then it comes down to whether you want better cooling (while being louder) with an AIO or a better motherboard (Yes, I would say that the Asus itx board is better) with an overall quieter cooler that'll have no problem cooling your CPU.

See, now this sort of stuff is exactly why ocn is such a kickass forum.

A thousand thank-yous! I shall see if I can find any other boards with a central CPU socket before I pull the trigger on the ASUS though; starting to think the OC function might not be worth the ~£50 premium.
HAL 9005
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 6600K Asus z170i Pro Gaming Nvidia 1070 Inno3D 8 GB 2x8GB 3200 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
256GB Samsung 830D + 2TB WD Eco Green + 2TB WD Red External, for silence's sake.  Corsair GTX H100i  6xEKV Vardar 2250 PWM rpm slaved to AOI 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
W10 64 Dell U2515H 1440p CM Storm Quickfire Red w/ O-rings Seasonic M12 700W modular 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Carbide Air 240 Logitech G700s CM Storm G930 
  hide details  
Reply
HAL 9005
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 6600K Asus z170i Pro Gaming Nvidia 1070 Inno3D 8 GB 2x8GB 3200 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
256GB Samsung 830D + 2TB WD Eco Green + 2TB WD Red External, for silence's sake.  Corsair GTX H100i  6xEKV Vardar 2250 PWM rpm slaved to AOI 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
W10 64 Dell U2515H 1440p CM Storm Quickfire Red w/ O-rings Seasonic M12 700W modular 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Carbide Air 240 Logitech G700s CM Storm G930 
  hide details  
Reply
post #20 of 41
Hmm interesting, I'm also interested in which motherboard to get. They seem to get pretty pricey for what you're getting but I would look forward to seeing the newer motherboards come with 8+2 phase changes.

I pre-ordered my Prodigy already, very excited.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Small Form Factor Systems
Overclock.net › Forums › Specialty Builds › Small Form Factor Systems › Moving to a Bitfenix Prodigy