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post #31 of 41
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Originally Posted by SupahSpankeh View Post

That's a neat trick - just use that tool and then presumably provide a W7 DVD for the install files or something?
http://www.arctic.ac/en/p/cooling/vga/375/accelero-twin-turbo-ii.html?c=2182
Do you chaps think a 6950 with one of these will fit in the Prodigy? I'm a bit unsure. It says it's 5.6cm high, so I'm guessing it won't.

It's actually really simple to make a Windows7 Install USB.
You don't even need a tool.

You can just format and partition it from command line and then extract an ISO to it.
I made one yesterday for a friends build.
post #32 of 41
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Really. That's only if you're using the stock fans. In a HTPC, I think i would use some yate loons or some scythe GTs to vastly reduce the noise. It's pretty widely known that the stock fans aren't the quietest.

Also, another thing to consider is the video card. Frankly, some cards are louder than others. I have seen quite a few reference Radeon cards in HTPCs here in this site. Reference radeon cards, such as the 6900 series, are WAY louder than any hydro series cooler. Anyone using a video card with loud fan(s) on it will have nothing to worry about from the hydro coolers, even their stock fans are not as loud as the video card fans are when they start getting to the upper end of their speed range. Of course, there are other cards that don't make so much noise, but my point is that noise is all relative.

If you want a silent HTPC, then high end video cards and any cooler with a noisy fan would be something you would avoid. I have two Scythe 110 CFM 120mm PWM fans on my H100 right now, they they don't get anywhere near (not even close) as loud as my video cards get. Also, if people would use PWM and use the CPU_Fan Header, the fans will spin down and be very quiet if the CPU is not under extreme load, just like video card fans. In my spare computer I have a H50 with push/pull and in all the time I've used it I've never even noticed the fan noise. My sig rig is way louder under full load, and that's mostly because of the video card fans. Any noise coming from a Hydro series cooler (or other closed loop water cooler) can usually be mitigated.

Also, I would recommend against the H50 in a tiny build anyway just because the pump housing is so tall. My first choice would be an H60, and if noise was a major issue, the above mentioned Yate Loons or Scythe GTs. Besides, I don't think anyone building a custom HTPC, and who is concerned with noise, is going to stick with stock fans on a closed loop water cooler. However, I would like to point out that I am using the stock H50 PWM fan along with a similar RPM Scythe PWM fan, using a PWM splitter, on that H50 spare computer and it's really almost noise free because 90% of the time the CPU is not being stressed enough to rev up the fans all the way. Most of the time they are operating below 1000 RPM (between 600 RPM and 1000 RPM).

Again, the main factor that comes into play here is simple space. If you have the room for an air cooler, go for it. They are quite a bit less expensive than water coolers and still do a good job. If the area around your CPU is tight for space, but you could fit a rad against a case fan mount, then go for it. Either solution will work fine.


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My personal take on it is that Asus boards in general, when looking at the total package, tend to be higher quality than AsRock. I own an AsRock myself and kind of envy the features that come with Asus boards.
The AsRock features are excellent for the price you pay but sometimes, the extra amount for an Asus board is well worth it.

Putting everything together, I'd personally get the AsRock ITX (that is if you had to choose between the two) and an AIO and grab these fans in push/pull. They also come in 1650 and 2000 rpm variants. You can read Ehume's review of them here. If you get something like a 3-pin fan splitter cable, then you can run two of them off your cpu_fan2 header (on AsRock boards, they have a 3-pin fan header which regulates voltage based on a target temperature set in the BIOS. It's an alternative to PWM for AsRock boards just in case you don't have PWM fans). A pair of those fans - or even one for that matter, should give you decent temps while being relatively quiet.

I don't know what shop you buy from in the UK but you can use Staticice to search for the best prices once you've chosen a particular product.


Also, @OP: you can follow Sean's Windows 7 Installation Guide. It tells you how to make a bootable USB W7 installer along with how to optimise your W7
post #33 of 41
Boards that can regulate 3-pin fans are a godsend really. If my ASUS board could control 3-pin fans I would still be using the stock H100 fans.
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post #34 of 41
You just need an ISO. If you only have an DVD, use this http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-makeiso.htm
to make an ISO. Good luck!
post #35 of 41
Thread Starter 
OK, so anyone know how I can find out which mITX mother boards have a central socket? Cost is a factor here, so I'll be hanging onto my TRUE. If I can't OC on my new mobo, so be it frown.gif

Also, I heard EVGA are doing a new Z77 motherboard. Anyone else also working on one?
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post #36 of 41
Apart from the Asus p8z77-i deluxe, this Foxconn is the only m-itx that I could find with a central socket

And yes EVGA are working on one but no one can guarantee a central socket and not carry a price premium.
post #37 of 41
Are you willing to go z-68? I know zotac has a pretty decent itx mobo.

I'm getting a prodigy (white) as well and I think I'm going to go with the zotac.
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post #38 of 41
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Originally Posted by SupahSpankeh View Post

Thanks for the effort here chap, but that looks like an m-ATX board to me! biggrin.gif

look at the video from minute 9 onwards, that's ITX smile.gif

any updates?
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post #39 of 41
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look at the video from minute 9 onwards, that's ITX smile.gif
any updates?
i was gonna go asus/prodigy but now jocelyn got me thinkin! i've always brought asus, an thought asrock as a lesser company, quality wise.

pretty sure he means the gigabyte offering you posted its definitely m-atx.

was gonna get the asus, but now im looking towards the asrock, but having never owned one, im concerned for quality, or am i being hypercritical? massive help guys
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post #40 of 41
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I've decided not to replatform. I initially thought:

Case - £60
Mobo - £80

Sell old case and old mobo (£50 each) for a net cost of £30.

Now, it'll be:

Case - £60
Mobo - £120+
H60 or similar - £50

So, about £130, and then it'd be noisier and have less space for drives. Instead, I think I'll get a 256GB Samsung 830 and call it a day biggrin.gif

Thanks to everyone for your help and advice though!
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