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so i am making a new gaming computer and i want to get 4x SSDs sata 6 in raid 0 to be the boot / game disk, but i cant figure out if the controler on the card i want can handle it.
the board specs say yes but i cant find confirmation and the data i can find online is conflicting.

the controler on the MB is the Marvell 88SE9172. but according to some sources it can only handle 2 disks in raid 0 and according to others it cant raid at all. so please help me get a definitive answer. smile.gif

if you know of a controler that can handle the setup i want i would be gratefull for the info! ^^
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For the love of god don't even consider booting form an integrated SATA controller! Even if that Marvel can handle it, I would stick with a 2x setup using the controller built into your north-bridge before that. Honestly, if you are considering a 4x SSD setup you should be using a dedicated RAID card with cache memory and a battery backup unit. Sure they add 15-30 seconds to boot time, but the performance is on a whole different level.
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now THAT is usefull information! i will look in to that! ^^ thanks mate!
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which motherboard are you looking at? I know with my 3x ssd's in raid 0 I had to get a dedicated raid controller as the onboard sata 3 controller only had 2 ports, the rest of the ports were sata 2.

I picked up the adaptec 6405e, and like RandomK mentioned, it does add to your overall boot time, but it's loads faster than onboard controllers.
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For the love of god don't even consider booting form an integrated SATA controller! Even if that Marvel can handle it, I would stick with a 2x setup using the controller built into your north-bridge before that. Honestly, if you are considering a 4x SSD setup you should be using a dedicated RAID card with cache memory and a battery backup unit. Sure they add 15-30 seconds to boot time, but the performance is on a whole different level.

a while ago i was testing raid options and the performace levels and gains.

i used the onboard controler and then a raid card.

when useing the onboard controller i ended up loosing performance when i stuck 4 HHD's in raid 0 as it whas useing the system ram and cpu to calculate everything. if i went to 3 HDD's i had a huge improvement over performance. so what i am trying to say depending on your setup you can loose performance on 4x ssd or HDD's.

as soon as i stuck them on a dedicated controler card the performance gain was huge.on 4 x HDD's i had almost tripled my performace with the 4 X HDD's to the 3 hdd's in raid.

but then the controler card was not a cheap one.



also it is not recomended to run an OS off a controller card if it is going to be a cheap one.

this is just my little input from what i have done etc... hope this helpos. if you want more info pls drop a line
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Is 4 disks in RAID 0 really necessary for gaming? How much of a performance gain could it possibly give over a 2 disk array on the intel controller? Or for that matter, a single SSD?
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I would just recommend avoiding cheap RAID controllers altogether. The card needs to have cache memory, and that memory needs to be supported by a BBU (battery backup unit). This should be at least $300-400. Remember, SAS controllers are backward compatible with SATA, but most SAS 6G/sec cards will only support SATA 2. You'll have to look carefully to determine what your model supports, as most enterprise users are going to just hook up SAS HDDs (generally 15k drives fr SAS 6G/sec). If you're really looking to pull out all the stops, this can be a good route to consider as well, but keep in mind those drives will be louder than a 747 taking off. Honestly, unless you have some highly unusual need for that much capacity, there is no reasonable justification for 4 X SSD RAID on a consumer desktop. If you simply want to avoid latency, use a RAM disk/ RAM caching program. My 2 cents.
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Is 4 disks in RAID 0 really necessary for gaming? How much of a performance gain could it possibly give over a 2 disk array on the intel controller? Or for that matter, a single SSD?

Yeah, totally this.

The speeds from RAID0 4x on an SSD will be immense in benchmarking, but how much difference to you expect it to make in real life?

I've had games on an Agility3 SSD RAID0, and a Samsung F3 RAID0, and really, truthfully, there's very little difference. Not enough to warrant the price of 4 SSDs plus a decent RAID card.
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Personally I wouldn't put more than 2 ssd on raid 0 with on board controller but 2 is fine more than that are not recommend.
If you really need speed for benching get a proper raid card or just go for PCIe SSD.
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