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post #11 of 23
Its kinda like Mcdonalds not putting a warning label on there coffee saying its hot...Ati forgot to put a warning label on the Radeon Products saying Warning: This may be better than yours
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Ok, I just read through this patent and it's total BUL$#i+! Basically the patent claims they invented the "s10e5" pattern (and derivatives thereof) of floating point rastorization in the frame buffer, which is supposed to be the optimal pattern. I think it's bs because the radeon line (and damn near everyone else in graphics) has been using floating point rastorization in the frame buffer for some time and the date on the pattent is November 18, 2003. I highly doubt that ATI has been using an inferior floating point pattern until after SGI patent the "s10e5" pattern. It seams to me like I could go and patent the method of hitting a nail with the head of the hammer as opposed to the side or claw of the hammer and sue everyone for using my hammering method. SGI is doing basically the same thing....
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post #13 of 23
Quote:
The patent, which was issued to SGI on 18 November 2003, claims intellectual rights for "A floating point rasterization and frame buffer in a computer system graphics program," as well as "the rasterization, fog, lighting, texturing, blending, and antialiasing processes operate on floating point values," which ATI has allegedly used without SGI's approval, according to the lawsuit.
Aw, come one, what else are you going to process fog, lighting, etc on? Integers? Sure, it will look like ****, but at least it won't be infringing on any patents.

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SGI works with ATI's competitors, including Nvidia, which makes them understandably upset about the prospect of ATI copying off of their proprietary technology.
Riiiigght...I bet nVidia brought this up to SGI. And don't call it "copying". They probably "reinvented" it. I could have had a patent that said "the use of aluminum in cooling mechanisms." That's just common sense, not an invention worthy of a patent.
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post #14 of 23
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lonnie5000
Have you guys noticed, its always a no-name, non-heard of company thats trying to sue a well known company. Who the hell is SGI? Just stupid.
Ever heard of OpenGL?
Yeah, SGI started that little API.
http://www.sgi.com/products/software/opengl/
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post #15 of 23
I should patent an aluminum container designed to hold pressurized beverages and then go sue Coke and Pepsi for patent infringement
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post #16 of 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by Safetydan
Ever heard of OpenGL?
Yeah, SGI started that little API.
http://www.sgi.com/products/software/opengl/
Low relevance to the news clipping. OpenGL is licensed to hardware manufacturers (ie. ATi...)
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post #17 of 23
Sorry for double post, but I think this is incredibly interesting!

http://oss.sgi.com/projects/ogl-samp...rmat_float.txt

Please note the date, and the reported date of the award of the patent.

(I don't know even a 1/10th of what they are saying, but I find the timing/timeline interesting)
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post #18 of 23
So the patent was filed before Windows 98 was released? How many of you played fog-filled games with AA on Windows 95?

Radeons were released in 2000 according to wikipedia. I guess SGI just didn't want to touch the later Rage cards with a 10ft pole.
     
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post #19 of 23
This is a lot like the RIM suing a while back and we all saw how that turned out...

What will probably happen is ATi will settle with a lump sum and tell them to have a nice day. However they could go all out now that there big brother AMD is on there side.

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post #20 of 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xavier1421
Low relevance to the news clipping. OpenGL is licensed to hardware manufacturers (ie. ATi...)
He isn't saying it's relevant to the story - the poster he quoted didn't know who SGI is
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