[Verge] Microsoft reportedly working to block apps that re-enable the Windows 8 Start button - Page 11

Seriously? This FUD again? There is no cycle unless you include every OS apart from 7 and ME sucking balls at first, then getting better (7, being an SP of Vista started off at the better stage and ME wasn't given a chance to improve)

Yeah, better suited to the mainstream market my aching backside...

And riddle me this, why can't they leave it in to give those of us who want an option that option? Instead we'll all stick to Win7, they won't get the planned Metro adoption for another 10 years or so (And no doubt will have to face plenty of upset consumers during that time) if at all and none of their money.

...Right, because code that isn't being used does something other than just sit there and take up a few MB of HDD space at most? Security, I can understand unless the code is proven to be fairly secure already in which case..yeah. Stability? It shouldn't make any difference if the code is unused. If I alter my Windows install and it becomes unstable due to that, that's my problem, not MS'. Same story for performance.

Getting used to it != it being more efficient/useful/intuitive to use. Heck, case in point; the Windows 7 app grouping; some people love it but I hate it because it means more clicking when a program has more windows open (For example MSN)

Considering it took Microsoft 15GB to do what Mac can do in 8GB or Linux can do in 2-3GB, these guys are the kings and queens of bloat. They don't tend to remove legacy code often so there's a damn good reason for when they do. Hell, there's still ActiveX controls in Vista/7...something I haven't seen used since 2003.

I use my start menu completely different to you, obviously. I use it for the majority of my shortcuts (Teamspeak, games, word, etc) and as a quick link to my computer, documents, etc. Just because you do something in a certain way, doesn't mean everyone does. Why can't MS give us a choice? Especially since it sounds like you use your start screen as a fullscreen start menu, anyway...


Erm, Windows 7 updates are stated to come out until 2015 or beyond and you can bet if users scream and complain enough, they'll provide copies of Windows 7. (Ala Vista vs XP)

At some point, yes, you will be forced to move up to a new version of Windows; however you'd also hope that there's enough users who haven't just gone "oh well" and upgraded even if they don't like it that MS really considers putting backwards compatibility in, or that Linux does what you want it to do by then if it doesn't already.

My post was of course opinion based. But to me :

In Win7 Start - All Programs - Program Folder - Shortcut

In Win8 Start - Shortcut
Edited by Xenthos - 6/1/12 at 2:04am

Another thing I don't like is all this "apps" business. The single reason I'd want a touchscreen tablet running a full OS would be to install programs from the internet that I specifically download to a downloads folder and so on.


Ah well, may also get an Intel Win8 tablet and install Windows 7 on it since it has full touch support =D

good now I can finally buy windows 8.

I don't understand the fuss over a button. Surely not a single person here looks or aims at the button when they open the Start menu. You quickly ram the mouse into the lower left-hand corner and click.. the same action that Windows 8 will use.

Now what happens after that click is a completely different story. I'm not talking about liking Metro or not.. just the button.

When it's the most used thing, at least for me, it's simply impossible to live without it.
If I have to make a change, I'll rather switch to OS X, which I also have

for me its not that they are removing the start button that make's me sad. IMO MS is wasting time and energy "tweaking" things that don't need it. They have already hacked out media support by ditching windows media player among other "tweaks". By the time Win8 is being sold its going to be a bare bone's OS. It will be pretty useless for the average PC illiterate user. I see windows 8 being a nightmare for system builder's. It will be harder for people like my mom and step dad to deal with PC's, now they will have to obtain new software for watching movies. On that same note my parents are not the best with PC's. People who are not computer people have to learn an entire new system, and learn more about software to use their home PC. I guess it falls under principle. For the OCN community it will be very easy for us to adapt to the new set up the average user's are the one's who will be hit hard.

I'm probably risking a ban, but my response to the article, and all the posts in this thread:

:l.

I reimaged with a fresh install of windows 8 last night to try it out.

I'm sold. (and i was a complete skeptic at first)

Stupidly fast OS. Metro has all the functionality of the start button. That was my main concern with the OS was that there was no start button. I felt like Microsoft had betrayed us all.

I had 0 issues with any drivers.

100% smooth and stable OS.

All games worked. Only 1 program gave me an error about a unsupported OS and that was Game Save Manager.

I recommend everyone try it out.

But as the guy 2 posts up said, i really do feel sorry for the average user. When i went to show my wife how to use skype she looked like it was the end of the world with windows 8. She could literally not find anything. The sad part is that she was just starting to get pretty good with windows 7 and now i get to start all over.
Edited by Ksireaper - 6/1/12 at 4:15am

I don't get what peoples' deal is with metro, it took a while to get used to but it's just as easy and fast as the start menu, and it looks way better.

But haters gonna hate, there's no stopping people from making a start button, they're going to find a way somehow.