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I was topping 90c with my H100 at 5ghz so i ripped it out and sold it, I tried many re-seats with all sorts of thermal compounds which didn't improve things. The H100 is crap imo and really not worth the extra cost over a good air cooler
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I was topping 90c with my H100 at 5ghz so i ripped it out and sold it, I tried many re-seats with all sorts of thermal compounds which didn't improve things. The H100 is crap imo and really not worth the extra cost over a good air cooler

i might thinking also that this unit is just a waste of money, but i dont lose hope yet since didnt try any troubleshooting yet, so i might conclude later.
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lol, You called me sir..
Do you have Hyper Threading on? Even with it on those are a tad bit higher. I think its safe to remove the cooler, clean off all the TIM and reapply some of the generic stuff's you have and recheck temps. Hyper threading will raise temps a decent amount but I think that's a bit high.

yes, i have the hyperthreading.

ok, so i will do it now, but before so, please advise me the best way to apply it, a detailed one. please, thanks.

i called you sir, because we used to call someone like that here in our place especially when you dont know whom you talk to. or, arent you male?
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This is the only downside to ICD7.
Personally I never use TIM supplied with anything. When I build a rig the first thing I do is remove all TIM and replace with ICD7 or other high-end TIM. I have always been of the opinion that company's use too much. In my opinion the brand of TIM dose not matter *with one exection, AS5 and their silly 200 hour cure time*, what dose matter is the application method and how much is used.

Back in my rookie days I made the mistake of using IC7 on a HD5770 without an IHS... One RMA later I learned my lesson tongue.gif (It worked quite nicely on a GTX 460, though) Most ceramic pastes are decent enough, I go for ones that are middle-to-top performers and that are on sale. The days of AS5 are over IMO. wink.gif

If the Corsair h100 is anything like past efforts, it should use Shin Etsu thermal paste, which is solid. If it helps, I used the pre-applied thermal paste with my build wink.gif The temperatures are great.
    
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i might thinking also that this unit is just a waste of money, but i dont lose hope yet since didnt try any troubleshooting yet, so i might conclude later.

IMO there are much better cooler's than the corsair H cooler's for the price they charge. For a similar price of the H100 you can pick up a RASA full water loop kit, The RASA kit will destroy anything corsair sells. They make less noise and cool far better. The only thing better than a RASA water kit is a full custom loop, but you will spend twice the price of the rasa kit on a full loop.

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yes, i have the hyperthreading.
ok, so i will do it now, but before so, please advise me the best way to apply it, a detailed one. please, thanks.
i called you sir, because we used to call someone like that here in our place especially when you dont know whom you talk to. or, arent you male?

having HT on will give a nice boost in everything but gaming at the cost of temps, those invisible core's get hot man! lol
Remove cooler. Clean paste off the CPU and the cooler(I use Rubbing Alch and coffee filters, let both the cooler and CPU dry off before installing them). to apply the TIM I use a very small dab in the center of the CPU(about the size of a rice grain, or 3 to 4mm diameter). When I install the cooler, I like to rotate it back and forth a little bit while applying pressure to ensure the TIM gets a "proper" spread. then tighten it down and your set. Take note that the back plate is installed the right way, and not grounding out anything on the back of the mobo. I do not recommend spreading the TIM before installing the cooler, it can trap air in between the cooler and the CPU causing high temps. That's about it.
This is how I install TIM and cooler's, works for Closed Liquid Cooler's(what you have), Air cooler's and water blocks in my experience. Feel free to experiment with the amount of TIM a little bit, some time's you need more, others you need less. Just make sure you don't have so much that its oozing down the side of the chip when you tighten down the cooler. Might cause damage.
If you need specific instructions on how to install the H100 bracket's and such I think they have it on their website.

The only reason you calling me sir caught me off guard is I'm an American, and over here you don't here that kind of stuff too often. You would also be correct in assuming I am a male smile.gif Best of luck on your TIM replacement.



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Back in my rookie days I made the mistake of using IC7 on a HD5770 without an IHS... One RMA later I learned my lesson tongue.gif (It worked quite nicely on a GTX 460, though) Most ceramic pastes are decent enough, I go for ones that are middle-to-top performers and that are on sale. The days of AS5 are over IMO. wink.gif
If the Corsair h100 is anything like past efforts, it should use Shin Etsu thermal paste, which is solid. If it helps, I used the pre-applied thermal paste with my build wink.gif The temperatures are great.

ohh wow, I bet the ICD made a mess of that card lol. I use it on my GTX460 too, temps dropped a lot after the install. EVGA really used a ton of TIM on my card, I kinda shocked they got that much on there lol. It didn't change the temps on my 6950 as much though.
Yea, I cant remember exactly what the corsair rep said but they where using Shin Etsu and changed to another brand that has identical performance(i think that's what he said) or they where using a brand identical to S/E and and changed to S/E.. Memory is "fuzzy" at the moment, the thread is here on OCN.net somewhere. And the application should be fine from corsair. Most of the time they don't mess around with quality and such.
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oh, just remounted it, cleansed with iso alcohol.

i put the syringe in a hot water, i dont know how many mins (maybe 10-15mins ^o^, because i just took it out when i was finished cleaning the surfaces.

i applied the paste with a grain of rice size, and spread it with a credit card (because i just read your instruction to just put the water block, i think i have to repeat the process)

now, the results are very worst, (yes, very and worst).

idle is 45c, and full load is 95c using prime 95, ***. boiling point.

im just curious if it has a curing time.

i think i have to remount it again.
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oh, just remounted it, cleansed with iso alcohol.
i put the syringe in a hot water, i dont know how many mins (maybe 10-15mins ^o^, because i just took it out when i was finished cleaning the surfaces.
i applied the paste with a grain of rice size, and spread it with a credit card (because i just read your instruction to just put the water block, i think i have to repeat the process)
now, the results are very worst, (yes, very and worst).
idle is 45c, and full load is 95c using prime 95, ***. boiling point.
im just curious if it has a curing time.
i think i have to remount it again.

There is no need to warm up the off brand TIM, that is only for ICD and that is because its THICK. if your using the off brand I do not know if it has a cure time, you would have to look at the manufacture's web page for that. Most TIM's do not have a cure time though. I would try another reset. If temps are still stupid high I was start looking at the cooler being faulty or similar.
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you either have air locked in the pump, or the pump is not moving
liquid. you might wanna trip on over to the corsair forum and view
the H100 solutions. again verify the pump rpm speed, move the
case around by tipping the case back and forth, side-to-side, and
look at the mount application. youll prolly have way to much TIM
ozzing everywhere.

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Back in my rookie days I made the mistake of using IC7 on a HD5770 without an IHS... One RMA later I learned my lesson tongue.gif (It worked quite nicely on a GTX 460, though) Most ceramic pastes are decent enough, I go for ones that are middle-to-top performers and that are on sale. The days of AS5 are over IMO. wink.gif
If the Corsair h100 is anything like past efforts, it should use Shin Etsu thermal paste, which is solid. If it helps, I used the pre-applied thermal paste with my build wink.gif The temperatures are great.

something else was up then.

i've used icd7 on bare gpu dies for at least 4-5 different mounts. No problems.

although you have to be extra careful with bare dies. they need to be completely covered and the pea dot size doesn't really work unless you're pro and know exactly how much to apply. the extra thickness of icd7 means you have to add extra goop to ensure complete coverage.
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The big point of using the all-in-one coolers is the looks. You clear up all that space around the cpu socket instead of having to stare at a hunk of metal.
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