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I am giving serious consideration to this CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117285
( Yes I already know its supposed to be a server cpu )
My reasons are as follows ,
1 ) I don't want a overclocker cpu
2) No intergrated graphics as I plan on a single 670GTX ( I lothe Intel intergrated graphics LOL )
3) Cheeper then a 3770K or even a 3770 Ivy

I have a board that says it supports this cpu my gigabyte Z77 UD3H
see this link for cpu support
http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=4153

what I am wondering is can anyone give a a valid reason not to go with a Xeon ? smile.gif
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anyone ? biggrin.gif
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No. I woudln't do it if I were you. You're a desktop user, so use a dekstop CPU. From what I understand you want something good but you're not an overclocker and you don't want to play the heaviest games on the heaviest settings (otherwise you'd have bought a 7970 or 680).
An i5 3570K performs almost as good as an i7 3770K but is +- 100$ cheaper, and 40-50$ cheaper than your Xeon processor.
 
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No. I woudln't do it if I were you. You're a desktop user, so use a dekstop CPU. From what I understand you want something good but you're not an overclocker and you don't want to play the heaviest games on the heaviest settings (otherwise you'd have bought a 7970 or 680).
An i5 3570K performs almost as good as an i7 3770K but is +- 100$ cheaper, and 40-50$ cheaper than your Xeon processor.
true , you have a valid point , but I want hyperthreading and no intergrated graphics . I even considered a sandy 2550k but then I would loose hyperthreading and PCIE 3.0 . As far as your point of being a server CPU , not realy any difference between a desktop CPU and a xeon , both are the same with one exception , the xeons support buffered ram . So unless you can give me a valid reason , I am pulling the trigger next week.
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Whats wrong with having Intergrated graphics on your chip? It don't mean that you will use it... What if one day you have to RMA your GPU? It happens you know, at least you'd have soemthing while waiting...
And is buffered ram will help you with? To me unless you are building a folding rig, i don't see the point in buying server component.
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I have to agree with Brothergc, I'm no fan of the Integrated Graphics either. Although I wouldn't mind having them as an option, something extra.
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both are the same with one exception , the xeons support buffered ram . So unless you can give me a valid reason , I am pulling the trigger next week.

The xeons support UNbuffered RAM, btw. wink.gif And I don't see why you would want to use unstable RAM (take this with a bit of salt, I'm exaggerating a bit). The only reason you would ever run unbuffered RAM is because they're (supposed to be) cheaper. Still, best to get registered (read: buffered) RAM. Safer and buffered RAM sticks are already so cheap nowadays you have no reason NOT to go for it.

And I just did some research and found out the Xeon E3-1240 V2 does have Integrated Graphics, the Intel HD P4000 to be precise.

So honestly, I see no reason left to go for a Xeon processor.
 
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The xeons support UNbuffered RAM, btw. wink.gif And I don't see why you would want to use unstable RAM (take this with a bit of salt, I'm exaggerating a bit). The only reason you would ever run unbuffered RAM is because they're (supposed to be) cheaper. Still, best to get registered (read: buffered) RAM. Safer and buffered RAM sticks are already so cheap nowadays you have no reason NOT to go for it.

Yes, the Xeon E3s support unbuffered RAM, but I'm not sure what difference it makes as that is all that the i3, i5 and i7 supports anyway. The Xeons DO support ECC RAM, so you will be able to get error correction; something that the i's don't support.
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And I just did some research and found out the Xeon E3-1240 V2 does have Integrated Graphics, the Intel HD P4000 to be precise.
So honestly, I see no reason left to go for a Xeon processor.

Where or how did you do your research? I think you are researching incorrectly. The Xeon E3-1240 V2 DOES NOT have integrated graphics. It's really easy to tell which of the Xeon line does or does not have graphics built in: All the models that end in zero (0) do not, and all the models that end in five (5) do.

For example, in this case, the E3-1240 V2 does not, but the E3-1245 V2 does.

Now, to answer the OP's question:

I've been solely using Xeon E3's since their original Sandy Bridge iteration, and believe it is a very good option for someone who 1) Does not want to overclock and 2) will definitely be using a discrete videocard. So, I think it should perfect for you. I've included a link to Intel's comparisons on their Xeon, and also between the last generation Sandy Bridge plus an Ivy Bridge i7.

Now, the one very big plus of not having a built in IGP is that there is a quantifiable savings in power, and that translates to less generated heat. The Xeon E3-1240 v2 has a TDP of 69W. Add an IGP to it a-la the E3-1245 or 3770K, and that shoots up to a 77W TDP.

Do not hesitate to contact me directly if you have any more questions about these processors. I work with lots of workstations all with Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge Xeons, so I should be able to provide some insight, or will try to anyway.

The Xeon E3-Processors are targeted towards workstations and entry level servers, so there absolutely no reason you should not consider these if that is what you are looking for. Here's a comparison chart from the Intel site, and it should answer a lot of questions you might have!

http://ark.intel.com/compare/65729,65730,52273

Cheers,

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Yes, the Xeon E3s support unbuffered RAM, but I'm not sure what difference it makes as that is all that the i3, i5 and i7 supports anyway. The Xeons DO support ECC RAM, so you will be able to get error correction; something that the i's don't support.
Where or how did you do your research? I think you are researching incorrectly. The Xeon E3-1240 V2 DOES NOT have integrated graphics. It's really easy to tell which of the Xeon line does or does not have graphics built in: All the models that end in zero (0) do not, and all the models that end in five (5) do.
For example, in this case, the E3-1240 V2 does not, but the E3-1245 V2 does.
Now, to answer the OP's question:
I've been solely using Xeon E3's since their original Sandy Bridge iteration, and believe it is a very good option for someone who 1) Does not want to overclock and 2) will definitely be using a discrete videocard. So, I think it should perfect for you. I've included a link to Intel's comparisons on their Xeon, and also between the last generation Sandy Bridge plus an Ivy Bridge i7.
Now, the one very big plus of not having a built in IGP is that there is a quantifiable savings in power, and that translates to less generated heat. The Xeon E3-1240 v2 has a TDP of 69W. Add an IGP to it a-la the E3-1245 or 3770K, and that shoots up to a 77W TDP.
Do not hesitate to contact me directly if you have any more questions about these processors. I work with lots of workstations all with Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge Xeons, so I should be able to provide some insight, or will try to anyway.
The Xeon E3-Processors are targeted towards workstations and entry level servers, so there absolutely no reason you should not consider these if that is what you are looking for. Here's a comparison chart from the Intel site, and it should answer a lot of questions you might have!
http://ark.intel.com/compare/65729,65730,52273
Cheers,
Flocons

Thanks for the info thumb.gif
Pushing the button on this cpu next week , this cpu should run as fast as the 3770 desktop and for less cash , folks we have a winner here , one step closer to my dream system biggrin.gif
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I think that is a great buy man. Makes me want to sell mt 2600k and buy one ...
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I think that is a great buy man. Makes me want to sell mt 2600k and buy one ...
dought it would be worth it seeing what you already have , Me I have a lowly I3 sandy and looking to upgrade . Finaly dumping windows xp pro to a oem copy of win 7 pro so I want something that will do for a few years
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