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So I've been away for a long time, just rejoining the forum as I've just recently gotten build-fever again. I don't really have a budget, per-se, but I want to spend as little as possible, efficiently as possible. I'd like to spend under $400 on the remaining parts. The only things I have left from my old rig are my PSU and Board. I've got a 650w XFX XXX Edition and an MSI 790FX-GD70 AM3 board. So I'm building AMD, shocker for a budget build, right? I'm building mostly to game and design (Photoshop). What I'd really like to do is compile this build entirely from the marketplace here at OCN, but I think that may be too difficult a task for my patience to undertake. This is what I've got in mind right now:

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz ($99.99 @ Newegg)
FAN: Cooler Master Hyper 212+ ($19.99 @ Newegg)
GPU: MSI N460GTX 192-Bit 1GB ($99.99 @ TigerDirect)
MOBO: MSI 790FX-GD70 ATX AM3 (Locked in)
RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 ($45.99 @ Newegg)
HDD: HGST HDS721050CLA362 500GB 7200 RPM ($71.98 @ Newegg)
PSU: XFX 650w XXX Edition 80+ Bronze Modular PSU (Locked in)
CASE: Thermaltake v3 Black Mid-Tower ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $377.93

Add $20 or so for a DVD+R/W drive puts me right about at that $400 mark. Any suggestions on where I can move some of these parts around to maximize efficient spending? I feel like RAM has tanked in price and HDDs have soared in price since my last build almost 2 years ago. For what it's worth, I prioritize graphics over computing, which makes me keep coming back to the GTX460... I just feel like it's so old, since that's what I used to have. But everywhere I look still says that the 460 is the epitome of efficiency. Thanks for your help, OCN!
Edited by Kny - 6/1/12 at 6:20am
post #2 of 9
as long as you don't plan on Over clocking that cpu on that board you will be on. Photoshop dose good with more cores and ram but its a ok build you can't improve it anymore if your set on that mobo
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Why can't I overclock on this board? From what I've read, the very first revision of the board was awful and fried, but after that, they were just fine. http://www.overclock.net/t/528400/official-msi-790fx-gd70-owners-club/0_100 Quite a few members have hit 4GHz no problem on 955/965s. I don't really care much for overclocking this particular rig, but I'm going to try it anyway. And there is a chance that I can scavenge a HDD from another PC, so that would free up $75 or so to allocate elsewhere. What then? I feel like the answer has to be 'get a better GPU.' I'm just not sure which.
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take a look at this chart

http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboard-vrm-information-list

like it says you can do some over clocking on the board but as it also says it has a high failer rate
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It says the board is recommended, but not for X6s, and that it has a high failure rate with X6s. I don't see how this correlates here at all, since I'm aiming for an X4.
post #6 of 9
take a look at this awsome board closed loop water cooling and a 6 core 250.00 and you have a board that will handle the new Piledriver chip due out at the end of this year

http://www.overclock.net/t/1262167/960t-990fxa-ud3-kuhler-620-8g-ram-combo
with this gpu

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814551001

and the case you picked out your at 400.00
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I'm no AMD expert by a long shot, but I know that MSI boards (on the AMD platform) aren't the most reliable. I've seen many instances of MSI boards having blown caps. Best to choose another brand, like ASUS.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131754 This board looks good.
Edited by Osea23 - 6/1/12 at 7:50am
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post #8 of 9

There have been fewer x4 failures than x6 failures.  What I advise you do is that if you overclock an x4, do not pass 1.45V.

 

This case is better for less and this HDD also costs less (and is WD... I don't even know what is the HGST brand) but other than that I think this build config is ready to go!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by xd_1771 View Post

There have been fewer x4 failures than x6 failures.  What I advise you do is that if you overclock an x4, do not pass 1.45V.

This case is better for less and this HDD
also costs less (and is WD... I don't even know what is the HGST brand) but other than that I think this build config is ready to go!

HGST is what Hitachi is now, since Western Digital acquired them; it stands for Hitachi Global Storage Technologies. I think the drive I picked was a continuation of their Deskstar line. And I'm not going to be overclocking heavily, and I won't pass 1.45v, thanks for that information. If I was able to forego the HDD and spend $175ish on a GPU, what is best positioned at that price point right now?
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