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I know this is a really old thread. But this might be useful to someone.

I just replaced SS-860XP (would not reliably re-start after shut down) with SS-860XP2. I left the old, braided cables in place because of careful cable routing and securing inside my case. Two MOBO and four peripheral cables fit the new PSU sockets just fine. I'm not using any PCI-e cables. BUT, the CPU plug on the old braided cable would not seat in the new PSU's socket. Fit very tight. The new flat ribbon cable's plug fit the new socket easily, seated completely and the system runs fine. I would have thought these were standard plugs and sockets but apparently not.

Also, while there may be an additional PCI-e socket there appears to be one less peripheral socket.

OG
You cant use the old cables with the new PSU which means you have to replace all the cables like it or not.
Do not try and start the PC with the old cables in the new PSU as the pin layout dont match.
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post #1232 of 1308
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You cant use the old cables with the new PSU which means you have to replace all the cables like it or not.
Do not try and start the PC with the old cables in the new PSU as the pin layout dont match.

OOPS, too late. All the old cable plugs / new 860XP2 sockets physically matched, except the CPU cable. I had already powered up with the new flat ribbon CPU cable and all the other old braided bundles. And it powers up and runs fine. I am on 7th power up - shut down - restart test cycle and all 6 preceding cycles have been successful.

I found my original 2012 build notes with plug configuration sketches and it looks like I had to use an adapter cable to connect the Seasonic CPU cable to my motherboard.

I will compare the 860XP and 860XP2 manual pin outs side by side, and report back.

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I will compare the 860XP and 860XP2 manual pin outs side by side, and report back.

At PSU end
The 20 / 24 pin main power connector pin outs (wire colors, voltages, arrangement) are the same. The new one is a braided bundle, not flat ribbon.
The 8 / 4 pin +12V power connectors (wire colors, voltages, arrangement) are the same.
The 8 pin +12V "P2" power connectors (wire colors, voltages, arrangement) are the same.
The 8 / 6 pin PCI Express connectors (wire colors, voltages, arrangement) are the same.
The peripheral power connectors (wire colors, voltages, arrangement) are the same.

At device end
The FDD power connectors (wire colors, voltages, arrangement) are the same.
The SATA connectors (wire colors, voltages, arrangement) are the same.

Those are the manual pin outs, p. 51 in both manuals. But the wires in the new cables (flat ribbon and the 20/24 braided bundle) are ALL black! So you would have to test voltages by pin location not wire color. I wonder if all black is to save cost or to make it hard to test.

The old braided cable marked CPU is the +12V pin out above. The new flat ribbon cable marked PSU on the PSU end and CPU on the other end is also the +12V pin out above. The pin outs and the pin shapes are the same in the manual, but the physical dimensions are just enough different so that old plug will not fit in new socket. Seems like poor QC.

I feel safer now that I've checked that.

I think electronically the cables are the same, except in the old braided bundles both the colored wires and the black COM wires are 16AWG and in the new flat ribbons and 20/24 braided bundle all the wire appear to be 18AWG. So newer wires are smaller with greater resistance, though it might not matter with these voltages over these distances. The new and old 110v power cords are both 16AWG. I ordered a 15ft 110V power cord when I ordered the new PSU (so I could test direct to a wall socket not power strip) and most all in the catalogs are only 18AWG (this is from Cables to Go C2G, a good manufacturer).

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Hey Zantrill,
The PRIME was shown at Computex and the 650/750w units will be at the stores in end July.
Sorry for the delay.
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I own this beast yay! It saved my pc from a reverse polarity problem in my house and a ungrounded outlet.Im thinking of making a memorial in my house for it.




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I own this beast yay! It saved my pc from a reverse polarity problem in my house and a ungrounded outlet.Im thinking of making a memorial in my house for it.

Isn't it great when something like that happens!

Seeing your 1,000W PSU made me think of an experience this AM. It's been "feels like" 100F+ here with actual temps above 95F and relative humidity 90% for days. Utility robot calling warning of brownouts or blackouts. Early this AM a momentary flicker and both computers went out because my UPS had died (a while ago). Being Sun AM I had to wait for Staples to open at 10AM. They have reduced floor space for UPSs so the biggest I could get was 700mA.

Anyway, that's background. A tech was working on an open computer. Hot looking Gigabyte mobo. Corsair water cooling. Didn't look like anything exotic in storage or GPUs. Some generic name brand case, probably assembled the computer too. But 1,000W PSU. I asked the tech "what for." He laughed and shrugged. Probably not drawing more than 300W. This maker just throws cheap, no-name 1,000W PSUs in their boxes. Probably buy them by the container load.

Had to laugh.

Not a "beast" like yours.

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I like the stability of the psu very much as in my case its actually 0% fluctuation (im lucky out here).ive got this one at Christmas when I built my pc and it was slightly higher priced than the new xp3. I decided to go with it as at the time the reseller of the xp3 on amazon had lots of bad reviews after some months of usage (maybe counterfeit items )and I couldnt RMA easily later as its a pain in the ass to ship back ect from here. Its a pretty solid unit even if it's now discontinued.my only concern are that it got 18+10 pin motherboard cable which is too awkard and hard to sleeve. My second one is that cablemod only support xp2 and xp3 models so im gonna sleeve new cables myself. I dont know if any other psu supported by cablemod have the same pinout :/ . Dont mind anyway as ill do it myself and call it a day.
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I like the stability of the psu very much as in my case its actually 0% fluctuation (im lucky out here).ive got this one at Christmas when I built my pc and it was slightly higher priced than the new xp3. I decided to go with it as at the time the reseller of the xp3 on amazon had lots of bad reviews after some months of usage (maybe counterfeit items )and I couldnt RMA easily later as its a pain in the ass to ship back ect from here. Its a pretty solid unit even if it's now discontinued.my only concern are that it got 18+10 pin motherboard cable which is too awkard and hard to sleeve. My second one is that cablemod only support xp2 and xp3 models so im gonna sleeve new cables myself. I dont know if any other psu supported by cablemod have the same pinout :/ . Dont mind anyway as ill do it myself and call it a day.

See my comparison of 860watt XP and XP2 pinouts and cables above. Not that not only are the flat cables in XP2 harder to route, but the plugs (that should be exactly the same) are just enough different that the XP 20/24 pin plug does NOT fit the XP2. So if you sleeve your own cables, if you are not re-using the XP2 plugs make sure any new plugs you purchase fit the XP2 BEFORE you spend all the time making up a new sleeved cables.

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