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Good to know hehe.

Don't think I'll get any higher than that, but I'm happy. I can go quite a lot on the memory though. Been stable at +500 before but backed down to +200 as I don't really need all the extra performance (unless playing Crysis 3 of course.)
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Looks like your performance in valley is fairly consistent with the max boost that you got on that run, 1110, but the trouble is that 1110 is not so great of a max boost speed. Lucky 670s get up in the neighborhood of 1300. I'm not sure what unlucky 670s see. You said earlier, you got it to boost to 1150 (with a larger offset presumably) but then it just didn't boost any higher no matter how much offset you added. You are not near the temp throttle point of 70c. Hard to say if you're bumping into power throttle points since that readout is whacked, but precx 4 has additional readouts that might show why increases on core clock offset don't translate into an increase in the max boost.

* Temperature Limit – the card is at its temperature throttle point
* Power Limit – The card is at its global power/TDP limit
* Voltage Limit – The card is at its highest boost bin
* Overvoltage Max Limit – The card’s absolute maximum voltage limit (“if this were to occur, you’d be at risk of frying your GPU”)
* Utilization Limit – The current workload is not high enough that boosting is necessary

Those readouts show 0 or 1, when 1, that's why its not boosting. You might want to look closely at those readouts for some clues.

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Ok, +78 on the GPU clock and +200 on the memory clock got me this:



Here is my GPU-Z:



And here is what Precision shows me after a run of Valley. No downlocking or anything odd:



As for the messed up power percent. I know that. I already talked with ASUS a while ago and they said if it has no affect on performance that I shouldn't worry.
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So how far should I take my card? I'm assuming your higher fps are coming from the processor end.
I'm at 1175 max boost and stable. memory is stock. what are "average", "high", and "dangerous" ranges for these two settings?
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So how far should I take my card? I'm assuming your higher fps are coming from the processor end.
I'm at 1175 max boost and stable. memory is stock. what are "average", "high", and "dangerous" ranges for these two settings?

1175 is what my factory OC'd card boosted to out-of-the-box.

As for what's safe... i think too much heat and too many volts are the real dangers. The bios prevents you from applying too many volts. With temps, you can see the gpu core temps easy enough in monitoring tools but whats going on with mem and vrms is less observable (to me).

From what i've seen seems to me that 1300+ is pretty darn "high" on core and ditto 7200+ on mem. Folks with fancy full cover liquid coolers and modded bios can reach crazy speeds near 1400 / 7600. I think w/o some kind of iceberg in your case, that's gotta be in the way "dangerous" category. I'm not sure what happens on "average"? You might want to look thru the submissions from karliotos valley thread... https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Av6qtxIdHmWgdHJuUkwyTzMyWWlzRFRYMWhsc1htNHc&output=html&widget=true
(click the "SAVED" tab at the bottom to see the entries)

Each entry shows the core/mem clock. Not sure that would count as "average" since people like to push it to the point of instability when benching.
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Odd thing is, when I'm on drivers 320.18 and up my power percent looks a little more normal. I get around 70-80% versus 30% I get in drivers like 306.97 or 314.xx.

Would increasing my power percent to 150 and trying +120 maybe show some different results..? I had my BIOS modded a while ago but forgot how to manually mod mind to 150% and 1.2v..
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Odd thing is, when I'm on drivers 320.18 and up my power percent looks a little more normal. I get around 70-80% versus 30% I get in drivers like 306.97 or 314.xx.

Would increasing my power percent to 150 and trying +120 maybe show some different results..? I had my BIOS modded a while ago but forgot how to manually mod mind to 150% and 1.2v..

I'm not sure I'd trust that power usage readout, something is just not right there. If you are actually throttling due to power limit being exceeded, then upping the limit should make a difference. Hard to know if you are bumping into the power limit. Do the 'reason' readouts in precx 4.2 say anything interesting?

1150 as a max boost may be a little disappointing but i don't think its outside of the expected range of possibilities? People have mentioned that the better chips may be getting binned for the 700 series cards, if that true and this is a recently purchased 670... 1150 as the max might be a reflection of that.

Have you modded the BIOS in this card or on some other card that you had in the past? If on this card, that might explain the whacky behavior?
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I'm not sure I'd trust that power usage readout, something is just not right there. If you are actually throttling due to power limit being exceeded, then upping the limit should make a difference. Hard to know if you are bumping into the power limit. Do the 'reason' readouts in precx 4.2 say anything interesting?

1150 as a max boost may be a little disappointing but i don't think its outside of the expected range of possibilities? People have mentioned that the better chips may be getting binned for the 700 series cards, if that true and this is a recently purchased 670... 1150 as the max might be a reflection of that.

Have you modded the BIOS in this card or on some other card that you had in the past? If on this card, that might explain the whacky behavior?
Indeed it was recently purchased. March of this year. And it was still showing this behavior before I modded the BIOS (I am currently on stock.) I will try doing to mod once more and seeing if I get any different results. If I don't, I guess I just have to accept my card isn't the best overclocker. Next time, I am definitely going EVGA. Those FTW models look beast.
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It's a bit of a lottery all right. I picked mine off a shelf at fry's at the beginning of feb. Those 700 series cards look pretty darn good compared to the 600 series these days smile.gif

I don't really know what the expected range for max boost for a 670 is but some googling can shed some light on that...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5818/nvidia-geforce-gtx-670-review-feat-evga/17 // non-overclocked
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5818/nvidia-geforce-gtx-670-review-feat-evga/18 // overclocked
http://www.overclock.net/t/1402053/evga-gtx-670-superclocked-very-low-max-boost-oc-unstable-1150mhz // luck of the draw can go the wrong way for evga cards too
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Now I'm crashing at stock clocks using my original BIOS. All I did was reflash my original BIOS again just in case that was the issue, but like 30 seconds into Valley and it freezes. Reinstalled drivers and nothing. Looks like tomorrow's going to be a Windows 7 clean install day! And if I get the same thing, I give up with this card.
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Oh no, that's definitely not an improvement frown.gif If you're crashing at stock clocks,sounds like something may not be right with the hardware? I had some trouble with the original 320 whql driver and reverted to the 314 whql driver. I haven't tried the new whql 320 driver yet because that first one didn't work out so well. Swapping drivers and running multiple monitoring tools have some pitfalls too. A windows reinstall is definitely the nuclear option for solving any software install/config issue (or maybe an opportunity to create a different crop of sw issues), but that can be pretty painful depending on how long you've had the system and what all is loaded up on it. Sorry you're having a hard time with it and I hope you get something working to your satisfaction.
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