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post #21 of 30
6/3/12 at 3:09pm
I'm assuming the Athlon II has stock cooling? 2.6 is kind of slow. I think you might see an improvement with getting a 965BE,but your graphics card may be a bottleneck as well,especially if the graphics card is doing the rendering in AE. You really wouldn't benefit from a 6 unless you do a lot of multi tasking.
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post #22 of 30
6/3/12 at 5:44pm
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I'm assuming the Athlon II has stock cooling? 2.6 is kind of slow. I think you might see an improvement with getting a 965BE,but your graphics card may be a bottleneck as well,especially if the graphics card is doing the rendering in AE. You really wouldn't benefit from a 6 unless you do a lot of multi tasking.

Yes it is entire stock. I do a fair amount of multitasking actually. Sometimes I record gameplay with Fraps, and sometimes I'll actually be creating 3d effects in After Effects while tabbing out to finish up photos or reply to emails.
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post #23 of 30
6/4/12 at 12:20am
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Yes it is entire stock. I do a fair amount of multitasking actually. Sometimes I record gameplay with Fraps, and sometimes I'll actually be creating 3d effects in After Effects while tabbing out to finish up photos or reply to emails.
You might want a FX-8120,it's not quite as fast a Phenom II 6 core in clock vs. clock,but usually cheaper and better in multitasking situations.
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6/4/12 at 1:04am
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You might want a FX-8120,it's not quite as fast a Phenom II 6 core in clock vs. clock,but usually cheaper and better in multitasking situations.


Yeah that's the other one I was looking at, but I'd have to get a new motherboard to fit. I did some research on newegg and I can get a new Asus mobo + 8120 for like 230 which isn't TOO bad, but kind of a challenge at this point. Though, it would be really beneficial to video.

I've spent 13 hours rendering video today alone, and that is why I was looking at a new CPU haha
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post #25 of 30
6/4/12 at 10:57pm
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there's a game that can use all 6 cores when gaming and that is BF3. here's for your reference http://www.overclock.net/t/1192463/1055t-core-utilization-on-bf3-multiplayer
OK, sure. There are exceptions to every rule. I should have said "the vast majority of games don't benefit from the fifth and sixth core." Happy now? If anyone out there uses their PC as a dedicated BF3 playing rig and doesn't want Intel, the Phenom II X6 is highly recommended.
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This might be a dumb question, but can I use AM3+ cpus on my board? I thought I remember hearing something about being able to use an AM3 cpu on an AM3+ mobo, but wasn't sure if it worked the other way around, as well.
If I CAN, I might just get the fx-6100 or 8120.
If the manufacturer provided a new BIOS that can recognize the FX processors, you can use them on an AM3 board. I don't see any FX processors listed on the support list for your board. Even if they did make a BIOS that supported it, running an FX on a regular AM3 board is not recommended by AMD and usually doesn't work well.
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Yeah that's the other one I was looking at, but I'd have to get a new motherboard to fit. I did some research on newegg and I can get a new Asus mobo + 8120 for like 230 which isn't TOO bad, but kind of a challenge at this point. Though, it would be really beneficial to video.
I've spent 13 hours rendering video today alone, and that is why I was looking at a new CPU haha
If you do that much video rendering, and you're not ready to change motherboards, you really should get a Thuban if you can find one. Rendering uses all of those six cores even better than Battlefield 3 does.
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post #26 of 30
6/5/12 at 1:34am
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If you do that much video rendering, and you're not ready to change motherboards, you really should get a Thuban if you can find one. Rendering uses all of those six cores even better than Battlefield 3 does.

I really do. Between yesterday and today, i've collectively done just over 16 hours of editing with a fair amount of that rendering. It's not that I am opposed to getting a new am3+ motherboard, it's just that I am on a shoestring budget, but want to try to work an upgrade in anyways.

There is always a chance of just holding out and dealing with the athlon for now until I CAN buy an 8120 + mobo.
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post #27 of 30
6/17/12 at 11:24am
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Just an update:

I bought the 1045t from Newegg on Friday (It's deactivated now! I wonder if I got the last one?) and I am confused about something. I looked up the 6 core support for my motherboard (M4N68T-M V2) and it says that it supports the 1100t, but can't really find any info on if it supports the 1045t. I sure hope it does...Anyone have any info on this? Apparently I was looking at the wrong page. It does indeed have support for the 1045t.

Thank you to everyone for their input. I am excited to finally make this upgrade!!

I have read reviews that the 1045t in combination with my board is not such a great idea because "it can fry the VRM's". I don't know what that means and how can I prevent it without buying a new motherboard? Is there a chance that if I am rendering a huge video file (hours of 1080p rendering) that I could end up destroying my computer? Please help!!
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post #28 of 30
6/17/12 at 12:16pm
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^ No, since ASUS boards have VRM protection techniques.  However, reliability of operation will be sort of niffy as a result of these protection techniques and the weak VRM setup.  If you do frequent video rendering/100% CPU load, I recommend as a minimum you invest in a board with a 6+2-8+2 phase VRM system with proper cooling, for the best long-term reliability.

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6/17/12 at 12:19pm
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^ No, since ASUS boards have VRM protection techniques.  However, reliability of operation will be sort of niffy as a result of these protection techniques and the weak VRM setup.  If you do frequent video rendering/100% CPU load, I recommend as a minimum you invest in a board with a 6+2-8+2 phase VRM system with proper cooling, for the best long-term reliability.

Okay. What if I purchased an after market CPU cooler for the time being? Would that be a bit safer or would stock be just fine? I am not going to overclock the CPU on this motherboard at all. I just want to run it stock. Again, I sometimes render out video which is usually 100% load, but more often that that, I play video games.
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6/17/12 at 6:04pm
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Okay. What if I purchased an after market CPU cooler for the time being? Would that be a bit safer or would stock be just fine? I am not going to overclock the CPU on this motherboard at all. I just want to run it stock. Again, I sometimes render out video which is usually 100% load, but more often that that, I play video games.

at stock settings your not going to get everything out of a PH II X6 as you can I had your board befor I moved up to a Sabertooth boad and the best I could get out of my 1090T was 3.6Ghz and that was with a H100 cooler and that was only in the winter with a 80mm fan zip tied to blow on my VRM's here is what I can do on a 8+2 board

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