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That's fine it's not that I don't believe you (I even searched the topic) but I'm telling u I been at 71-72 and it's stayed solid at 1228 boost. It could also be msi has different bios settings to allow a higher temp or maybe it's because I have any possible setting set to max performance or precision X could have something to do with. Idk what it comes down to is 80 degrees with this card and twin froze 4 cooler is way too hot for a single card. Even if you have decent cooling. My case is very crammed now with two cards a hyper 212+ and wires two hard drives. I don't seem to have an issue. Btw sli is damn awesome lol this craps all over crossfire (which I came from) . Just for the fact stuttering isn't present. I see no different e in quality but a huge jump in performance.

Agreed, in above 310.70 driver, I never got a throttle even my card temperature is at 75C...The throttle I got is because of the lack of power limit ( too bad MSI has only putting @114% max @overclockable cards).
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Agreed, in above 310.70 driver, I never got a throttle even my card temperature is at 75C...The throttle I got is because of the lack of power limit ( too bad MSI has only putting @114% max @overclockable cards).

So you're saying that any driver above 310.70 has problems with throttling?
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So you're saying that any driver above 310.70 has problems with throttling?

I can't say for the other card, especially the other models like Gigabyte, etc...I can say based on my card, though.
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All I can say is it's kinda silly cause if you look at benchmark reviews 80 percent of the higher gtx cards operate in the 70 degree range especially the reference designs.
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All I can say is it's kinda silly cause if you look at benchmark reviews 80 percent of the higher gtx cards operate in the 70 degree range especially the reference designs.

True! Both of my cards never break 65c even while folding, they mostly stay under 60c. Losing 13 MHz at 70c isn't a big deal though.
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True! Both of my cards never break 65c even while folding, they mostly stay under 60c. Losing 13 MHz at 70c isn't a big deal though.

What type of setup and what cards do you have? I would like to keep mine under 65 but I try not to break 55 percent on my fans cause then there's noise. Both from my cards and my girlfriend lol
post #757 of 939
like laro22 said, my N670 PE is also throttling with default vbios at ~100% power... no matter if I set 114% in AF (2.2.3, or 3.0.0 b8), card simply ignores it...
after several modifications of vbios, I found out something really weird with default vbios...
it has some stupid lock at 100% power deep in vbios...why?
because I tried to set 100% power limit as 200W (default 175W) via Kepler Tweaker and what happened ? card start throttling at ~90% power now... temps were still below 70C!!
I tried 3 different versions of (original) vbios but in each of them was this bug.
But just for curiosity I flashed modded galaxy/msi pe vbios from this forum (start here) and new 200W power limit suddenly worked fine, without throttling at 90% power...
I don't know what does it mean, but I contacted MSI tech support with detailed explanations what's going on... I assume this is not standard behaviour of this card and I am sure power limit has nothing to do with nvidia "overvoltage ban"...
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My power limit hasn't exceeded 107 but I have it set to 114 and don't seem to have this issue. I never flashed any bios or anything. Note your card will not throttle but adjust itself based on load if your using vsync or a frame cap to reduced power when not needed. When this throttling occurs are you experiencing low framerates or stuttering?
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Low framerates ? probably not, or maybe a little bit, hard to say... it's all about +/- 50Mhz.
Simply I just want from my card to stay at "max" boost clock in heavy (99%) load... e.g. Unigene Heaven without vsync, Crysis 3 without vsync etc..
I know it is possible without problem with sufficient setting of power limit. (and temp below 70C of course)
Now I have boost 1293Mhz and through Heaven loop it is going down to 1254Mhz and up to 1293Mhz, depends on scene "difficulty" and related power consumption.
With this modded galaxy vbios I have 1293Mhz all the time and this I want from default MSI bios...
With this vbios I confirmed that card can definitely work as it should and it's not hardware issue.
It'll be more than enough if 114% power limit will work as intended.

P.s. I know that in old or not very gpu heavy games card can run at ~1100 or ~800Mhz or even lower clocks, but this is not part of my problem.
Edited by eddward - 4/4/13 at 11:38am
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post #760 of 939
Do u have max performance selected in nvidia control panel under power management? And what are you using to monitor your sensors. Are you using a precision X or msi afterburner. Also what processor are you running and what speed. Also what motherboard. I've heard sometimes based on settings cards can draw power from the pci-e slot instead of just using the psu.
Edited by H3r3tic - 4/4/13 at 11:46am
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