[CBS] Coming soon to a sea near you: $3bil Stealth Destroyer

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6/4/12 at 4:44pm

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this huge jobs program will be perfect in the Arabian sea... and maybe they can test this out on Somalian pirates to make a statement

Meanwhile 50% of the population of the nation lives in poverty... like they could use 3bils from the government right

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6/4/12 at 5:01pm

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Originally Posted by mott555

Sometimes I think people worry too much about the Chinese. I have a Chinese-made motorcycle and it doesn't run very well anymore. I took it apart to check the air filter and found a serious design flaw. The air filter doesn't actually filter any air. Now I have to disassemble and clean the carb and kludge together a working air filter if I plan to keep the bike.

lol thats because the chinese economy is profit > everything else, just like the US, but at least in the US we have safety regulations and rules, the Chinese dosn't. thus you have subpar and sometimese even dangerous products

the military is a different thing

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6/4/12 at 8:34pm

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Originally Posted by Nemesis158

China is very sneaky. it would seem to me that they want to buy up all our debt because they know that our economy is very fragile.
what would happen if china decided to tell the banking organizations of the world that we werent paying back our debt and they want their money back?
Our economy would crash and the USA would have fewer allies due to the power of money controlling many governments. then china could just roll over us.

err no. not at all.

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6/4/12 at 8:36pm

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Originally Posted by kikkO

I find it hilarious every time the US makes fancy new toys with all this high tech stuff onboard only to be undermined by the most conventional methods by the Chinese.
Like when the US declared taking down one of their satellites is act of war. China goes, "Ok fine, we'll just blind it". :triplefacepalm:

Haha. It's fun to be Chinese sometimes.

(yeah, I'm Chinese)

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6/4/12 at 9:31pm

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Allies! Allies! Allies is what matter the most when it comes to major wars! Second most is where those Allies are located! The US would be very hard to attack directly without help from neighboring lands. China is over populated and is surrounded by US Allies, Allies that do not care so much for China.

Wars are fought on an economical scales today. China's population is growing and resources are shrinking. China relies on the US and US allies more than most people know. A drop in the world's demand for goods could and would crush China.

These destroyers are toys. Most nations have their top secret war projects that get released at the last minute (In the time of major war).

It would be pointless for China to go to war with the US. The US made China. The US and it's Allies have been the center of the world since World War II. America is the land of many nations, people have been migrating to America since its birth and continued to do so. A percentage of these people go back to their native lands and bring a piece of the American life back with them (The American way of life they help create). People who migrated to American and built one the greatest nation the world has seen to date, have done what know other nation/country could do, change the world. Whether you like it or not, these people have done what many have tried to do and failed. China is looking more like the US every day.

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6/4/12 at 9:41pm

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Originally Posted by DuckieHo

Small fishing boats at night would only be effective in a surprise attack and the target was stationary and the target was not in open water.
Shove 20-50 boats out there.... and some will notice.
In a full-scale conflict, this tactic will not be very effective either when everyone is on full alert.

Much modern military intervention often has little to do with full scale conflict between nation-states, and there is often a need for Naval vessels in congested waters, where speeds will be limited, and even a number of boats may not be noticed until too late.

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6/4/12 at 9:46pm

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Originally Posted by DuckieHo

Weapons are not always for use..... the existence of weapons itself is sometimes the main use of a weapon. It is a deterrent. The US is stepping up its focus on the Pacific as already publicly stated. In fact, Defense Secretary Panetta is in Vietnam to discuss US support against China and re-establishing a supply base.

This, a million times over. If any of you guys are interested in US-world-domination theories, and want to learn about the method behind the madness of all this defense spending, you guys should read George Friedman's book "The Next 100 Years". Who's George Friedman? He's the CEO of Stratfor (yes, the intelligence agency that was hacked by Anonymous), an organization commonly referred to as "the second CIA"

In short:
- the U.S. must have a large navy to dominate the seas, which is key to controlling/monitoring global trade
(have a country working against your interests? You can single-handedly halt all trade going to and from ports, devastating their economy)
- full-scale wars are a thing of the past due to technology which allows precise killing e.g. drone strikes
(think WWII, you needed larger armies because weapons were inaccurate, if you can blanket an entire area with gunfire you will eventually defeat your opponent)
- think of the unintended consequences/implications of military R&D spending
(highways, ARPANET->internet, many medical devices, these all originated from military R&D and have very practical use for the public)

This doesn't mean I'm not a critic of defense spending, far from it, but the minute we turn our back someone else will try and one-up us, possibly with dire consequences
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6/4/12 at 9:48pm

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China is very sneaky. it would seem to me that they want to buy up all our debt because they know that our economy is very fragile.
what would happen if china decided to tell the banking organizations of the world that we werent paying back our debt and they want their money back?
Our economy would crash and the USA would have fewer allies due to the power of money controlling many governments. then china could just roll over us.

A simple drop in demand for Chinese made goods would crush China. The only reason it's made in China is because the cost is so affordable, but soon as resources dry up and Chinese workers start demanding more (Like American and UK workers did), then the companies based in China will move to the next country that offers a more affordable option, then when all affordable options that give them an advantage dry up, they will start moving back home.

Allies are not just about money. The US has some very powerful and honorable Allies on their side. Do not fool yourself. They may be a few people in China that do not like the US, but the majority actually like the US. I have many friends from all over the world and quite a few from China and two past Girl Friends from China and they love the US.

All the fear created by the media or people is more hype and fear it self...
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6/4/12 at 9:49pm

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Goddammit, my taxes.

Unless this toy is unbeatable, we need to spend this kind of money on stuff that has always worked.

not another disaster like the F-22

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