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Originally Posted by Johnny_Utah View Post

So then reaching 1400 MHz on air was a fluke eh?

I've tried to overclock 3 680s that would only reach 1200-1240 boosts no matter what. And even at those speeds, they required manual fans at high settings to prevent the 70c throttle area, and would sometimes TDR in extended gaming sessions (such as crysis 2 maxed with vsync off) My 690 maxes out at +150 offset. To say that 1400 is easily achievable seems ludicrous to me, having overclocked quite a few 680s myself. I may have gotten incredibly unlucky, but thats just my experience...having said that, thats not say that I wasn't pleased with performance at those clocks. Performance was just fine.

Of course, aftermarket 680s will do a bit better with some reaching the 1300 range. Anyway---like you, i'm very anxious to try the lightning or classified cards, i'm pretty excited about what voltage control will do. If 1400mhz is realistic, i'll be all about it smile.gif
Edited by xoleras - 6/16/12 at 4:51am
post #102 of 900
Like I've said before, I'm happy with my cards. They win some and they lose some. The 680's are also fantastic cards so I'm not sure where the adversarial attitude is coming from? I was simply used to the old way of overclocking with my 580's where I could pull up AB, set a voltage and clock it til it crashed and then up the voltage. You can still do that with AMD cards but no longer with Nvidia and that is the sole reason I switched...
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Cleaned. Guys please, try to keep the discussion constructive and friendly. There's no reason to insult other users.
 
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post #104 of 900
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It was a fluke in the sense that Kingpin is sponsored by Nvidia and therefore has access to cherry-picked chips, tools and support that no end user will ever have...

Technically, he is sponsored by EVGA. He did indicate that "Most Keplers" will hit 1400, not "most EVGA 680's" will. This is a moot point anyhow seeing as most people will not risk voiding their warranty and performing his over volt modification on a vanilla 680. The Lightning and Classified are made with much finer components and more power phases, so we will never know. However, imho I think that realistically, most of us could hit pretty decent numbers if we had our cards unlocked.
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Like I've said before, I'm happy with my cards. They win some and they lose some. The 680's are also fantastic cards so I'm not sure where the adversarial attitude is coming from? I was simply used to the old way of overclocking with my 580's where I could pull up AB, set a voltage and clock it til it crashed and then up the voltage. You can still do that with AMD cards but no longer with Nvidia and that is the sole reason I switched...

Well, we do agree on that brother. These 7970's OC like champs and although my 680 performs admirably, I want more....I want what we had...and I am willing to pay for it. I just think that Nvidia borked us this round;)
post #105 of 900
Kingpin has zero inside information on the issue so really anything he says doesn't matter. His results are also irrelevant to us for reason Eric posted.

If any cards 'consistently' hit 1400 though I'd imagine it'd be the classified and lightning. More so the lightning.
    
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Kingpin has zero inside information on the issue so really anything he says doesn't matter. His results are also irrelevant to us for reason Eric posted.
If any cards 'consistently' hit 1400 though I'd imagine it'd be the classified and lightning. More so the lightning.

I don't see any reason cards with unlocked voltages couldn't hit those kind of clocks. Perhaps not consistently or even on stock air cooling (in reasonable ambients).

That's not really the point anyone is trying to argue though. Serious overclockers know they need to do more than type 1400 into Afterburner/Precision and expect an out-of-the-box factory stock card to hit stable high clocks. People are mostly looking for reasons to justify waterblocks and other aftermarket cooling that at the moment is a moot point.
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I don't see any reason cards with unlocked voltages couldn't hit those kind of clocks. Perhaps not consistently or even on stock air cooling (in reasonable ambients).
That's not really the point anyone is trying to argue though. Serious overclockers know they need to do more than type 1400 into Afterburner/Precision and expect an out-of-the-box factory stock card to hit stable high clocks. People are mostly looking for reasons to justify waterblocks and other aftermarket cooling that at the moment is a moot point.

The thing is cards that are already hitting 1300 are cards with extremely low leakage and upping the voltage won't really help them all that much. What voltage control will do is help cards that are only hitting 1150-1200 and allow them to go up much higher.
    
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The thing is cards that are already hitting 1300 are cards with extremely low leakage and upping the voltage won't really help them all that much. What voltage control will do is help cards that are only hitting 1150-1200 and allow them to go up much higher.

That's a fair assumption, but that's also based entirely on either reference or functionally-reference designs. I wouldn't put all my money into that idea so to speak before we see some more details on these serious non-reference designs.
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post #109 of 900
I'm to the point I don't even care anymore. I just picked up an EVbot and plan on getting 2 Classifieds and do testing for myself. Just need to get a friend in the area to order me one since EVGA still has the "1 per household" for any 680 series card.
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Cool, I'll be picking up a couple of the new GHz 7970's when they release to go with my EK blocks so maybe we can do a little benching competition later? thumb.gif
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