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Originally Posted by xoleras View Post

GTX 680 cards not clocking similarly is completely normal. No 2 cards will clock exactly alike - I had an EVGA 680 that clocked at 1210 max and another that did 1240. Although you can overclock them unevenly to compensate. But you will hardly ever get 2 cards that boost to the same speed.
As for first question memory voltage will help but that won't be available until the next afterburner.....core voltage won't help a memory OC (sorry might be understanding the question wrong)

Memory voltage adjustment is actually available now. At least it works on my card. Only thing is that it doesn't really make much difference. 7200 ran but caused a lot of artifacts
Edited by jona2125 - 6/26/12 at 2:34pm
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A slight voltage increase may get you another 50-150Mhz effective. Depending on card...
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The thing Im most impressed about is the temps. Max Ive seen so far is 62C. My 3 slot Asus TOP 680 would hit 69-70. I couldnt .

You guys should realise that Asus DCII cards operate at very very low RPM @ stock fans, so the temps are higher but the card is like dead silent, if you compare both cards at same fan speed, same core, same voltage, same pc same game etc, the DCII would win 100%
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Hmm, of course the dc2 has better heat dissipation because it is a much larger cooler.
Edited by xoleras - 6/26/12 at 5:00pm
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Nope spoken like it should be, when you compare 2 products as it should.
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UPS delivers until 7PM local and i'm pretty sure UPS is delivering to me at 6:59PM frown.gif Arghhhh.

UPS delivers residential last and businesses first. It's pretty simple to figure that one out.

The fact that most UPS drivers work 10-12 hour days shouldn't be lost when looking at their overall company and how they can efficiently move millions of packages EVERY DAY.


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You guys should realise that Asus DCII cards operate at very very low RPM @ stock fans, so the temps are higher but the card is like dead silent, if you compare both cards at same fan speed, same core, same voltage, same pc same game etc, the DCII would win 100%
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Nope spoken like it should be, when you compare 2 products as it should.

As it should:

ASUS DirectCU is larger mass, larger heatsink, larger surface area to remove heat. Thus, the fanspeeds would be lower by design and by simple thermodynamics. So what you're saying is correct from a fan noise perspective.

However, I think ASUS made one minor error on the 600-series:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/asus-geforce-gtx-680-msi-radeon-hd7970_2.html#sect1

Two pictures stand out:
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460

Note the TIM and which heatpipes actually touch the GPU heatspreader.

I'm not an engineer, but the outer two heatpipes don't even TOUCH anything that directly transfers heat. Not even the TIM.
    
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You guys should realise that Asus DCII cards operate at very very low RPM @ stock fans, so the temps are higher but the card is like dead silent, if you compare both cards at same fan speed, same core, same voltage, same pc same game etc, the DCII would win 100%

I understand what your saying about lower rpm. The thing is though that this card is just as quite as the asus and takes up one less slot. Theres no doubt my asus was a good card but this lightning is running at a higher voltage and higher clock speeds and is still 8C cooler than my TOP. They built the DCII like a tank but they couldnt even include a memory heatsink?!?! That was biggest cheap out ever on a high end card like that.

Anyways Im getting some weird heaven issues. Hopefully someone can help me out here. Its limiting the power percent to around 40%. It will run okay then kick it down from 60 to 40. Temps are below 70 and Ive tried various memory overclocks including no overclock at all. Heres an AB screen shot, notice the drop from around 60 to 40 at the very top of the screen shot.

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Guys i love both vendors, Asus and MSI, even i must admit IMHO MSI is the best brand in the world when it comes to GPU's (lightning that is) and Asus is second imho again. So lets be clear here no fanboy talking.

I'm just pointing that tests when comparing cards should be made as much as similar to the CPU heat sinks compassion thumb.gif
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Guys i love both vendors, Asus and MSI, even i must admit IMHO MSI is the best brand in the world when it comes to GPU's (lightning that is) and Asus is second imho again. So lets be clear here no fanboy talking.
I'm just pointing that tests when comparing cards should be made as much as similar to the CPU heat sinks compassion thumb.gif

I know, read my post again.

Theirs is lower fanspeed by virtue of the larger heatsink mass. I don't want to argue this point because what you're saying is 100% correct.

we can make our fanspeed lower, too. Then people will complain about the high idle temps and think ours is defective.
    
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I know, read my post again.
Theirs is lower fanspeed by virtue of the larger heatsink mass. I don't want to argue this point because what you're saying is 100% correct.
we can make our fanspeed lower, too. Then people will complain about the high idle temps and think ours is defective.


No problems dude thumb.gif

I completely understand your point, i was referring to Xoleras post mostly.
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