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So this Unwinder guy doesn't work for MSI? Is this what EVGA meant by them 'following the rules with Nvidia' and MSI not? I still wanna know what that statement meant as far as the EVGA guy referring to 'following the rules' as far as the Classified is concerned.
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So this Unwinder guy doesn't work for MSI? Is this what EVGA meant by them 'following the rules with Nvidia' and MSI not? I still wanna know what that statement meant as far as the EVGA guy referring to 'following the rules' as far as the Classified is concerned.

I agree. I feel like there's been so much beating around the bush when it comes to "voltage". Theres something we're not being told ha. Youd think we'd have the right to know as consumers.

I also find it crazy that the creator of afterburner doesnt have more of a connection with Msi.
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So this Unwinder guy doesn't work for MSI? Is this what EVGA meant by them 'following the rules with Nvidia' and MSI not? I still wanna know what that statement meant as far as the EVGA guy referring to 'following the rules' as far as the Classified is concerned.

He works on Afterburner and Precision X (the overclocking software from MSI and EVGA)
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Now I can say that I am happy with my cards currently even without additional voltage. I will definitely keep them, they are the best 680s on the market.
I will wait a bit longer, if MSI said it will happen -- I trust them. Unwinder is not in the US while Alex is, so maybe this is something outside of his reach - but i'm sure it can be remedied. I don't know what the deal is but I will give them the benefit of the doubt without acting stupid here, maybe alex can chime in.

Now I guess we know why Alex got so snitty over the "2.2.3 this week post".

I am still running the 301.42 drivers in the stock (not LN2) bios with a stock clock I7 3770K, just bumped the sliders up in 2.2.2 and unofficially could take 23rd place in the 3DMark 11 Performance rankings (P15764) and 33rd in the Heaven 3.0 rankings (2682/106.5 FPS). I think these cards are dandy, even though I bought them more for the factory overclock and effective/quiet cooling, I think MSI still owes us the unlocked voltage option.
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304.72 should give you an appreciable bump in 3dmark11 scores. Worth a try at least. Also 304.72 (released today) resolves a few game issues for me.
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There must be something about GK104 that everybody is afraid of unlocked voltages for some reason. Whatever though, the Lightning scores I've seen here with stock voltages are far higher than I've seen from anything else. Would love to see a Heaven 3.0 run from you guys though!

Well I've been waiting for 2.2.3 before getting into more testing, so, as of right now this is my best single card score. Official Heaven Top 30 settings, 1355/6800. 61.9fps. Max temp 58C with stock profile

800

So is MSI_Alex all quiet now that more talk of 2.2.3 and why it's late has been going on? Anyone see him still talking? Or does he get bombed with questions everytime he says something and takes off right away?
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Its July 4th FFS so calm down a bit wink.gif Not like the world is about to end. MSI said it would happen, but they didn't guarantee a time frame. Unwinder is not in the US. Just let them do their thing and hopefully Alex will be back later this week, i'd assume is enjoying his vacation like I will be starting tomorrow thumb.gif

Like I said i'm happy with my cards as is, and I take them at their word. I'd say its too early to go overboard with the hate.
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i'd assume is enjoying his vacation like I will be starting tomorrow thumb.gif
Like I said i'm happy with my cards as is, and I take them at their word. I'd say its too early to go overboard with the hate.

I'm off the rest of the week, I just finished this rig Sunday July 1st, and my monitors and keyboard/mouse arrived last night. It's very dang quiet, way faster than I had, cooler than I could have imagined, I just bought Max Payne 3 and Skyrim to play around on and it's 4th of July. No hate here, far from it!

Painless. For a new rig with 680 OC SLI right off the bat, it's been just event free. I know I'm never going to set any benchmark records, but having a kick ass new rig that you can't even hear has to be worth something. I'm running a MSI MoBo, to boot. So I'd have dual layers of hate if something was jacking me up.

Peace out, all.
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I know, just was curious how everyone is treating Alex, if they're asking him a bunch of stuff so he got quiet.

But yeah, like the cards. Whether or not Lightning SLI is worth the extra $200 without voltage control is up for debate. But the one card I got is definitely a winner. Just bumped the core up to 1355mhz and played a hour and a half game in BF3.

But in SLI, I bring the top one's core down to 1295 to match the other's. But again, awesome- yes. Not $200 awesome. These cards are too capable and run too cool to not have voltage control. I'm positive MSI will release a higher max voltage, but it should have been sooner. They've had how long to get one of these to Unwinder before release??
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I know, just was curious how everyone is treating Alex, if they're asking him a bunch of stuff so he got quiet.
But yeah, like the cards. Whether or not Lightning SLI is worth the extra $200 without voltage control is up for debate. But the one card I got is definitely a winner. Just bumped the core up to 1355mhz and played a hour and a half game in BF3.
But in SLI, I bring the top one's core down to 1295 to match the other's. But again, awesome- yes. Not $200 awesome. These cards are too capable and run too cool to not have voltage control. I'm positive MSI will release a higher max voltage, but it should have been sooner. They've had how long to get one of these to Unwinder before release??

You don't have to run both cards evenly, you should be able to run one at 1350 and the other at whatever and it should be stable. This is actually normal behaviour for 680 SLI, since for other mortal 680 cards they don't boost evenly. The lightning is the only card that has consistent boosts with a given offset, and it doesn't have kepler throttle either. Anyway, if you want you can run 1 at 1350 and the other at 1300. I saw you mention that you're using auto fan, manual fan as well will help you push further.

Even with all other things being equal these are features that I greatly enjoy. With 680 sli and the 690, kepler throttle constantly sabotaged overclocks and throttled starting at 70C. No such thing with the lightning, which I enjoy wink.gif Also, 100 offset on one lightning is 100 offset on my other (ie, they both run at the same and predictable speeds 100% of the time) All other 680s to my knowledge have completely varying boost clocks depending on chip quality, and it can't be predicted. Just a few perks that I like.

I assume Alex is enjoying his fourth but hopefully he can chime in later this week.
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