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I still can't believe how much cooler the 680 Lightnings run than the 7970 Lightnings. My top card was always hitting 80C or more even on 100% fan and with my side panel off. In single card it could do 1275MHz but in CF the temps made it impossible to get over 1225MHz. Really hoping water fixes that...

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Ok, so what afterburner 2.2.3 really brings ? The full compatibility with unlocked voltage ?
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Ok, so what afterburner 2.2.3 really brings ? The full compatibility with unlocked voltage ?

Yes. The same Triple Over-voltage Control that other Lightnings enjoy.
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I still can't believe how much cooler the 680 Lightnings run than the 7970 Lightnings. My top card was always hitting 80C or more even on 100% fan and with my side panel off. In single card it could do 1275MHz but in CF the temps made it impossible to get over 1225MHz. Really hoping water fixes that...

Yeah they're nice cards for sure, i'm enjoying mine very much. I was really happy with the 580 lightnings so I knew the 680s would be just as awesome. Although, I'd say if you have waterblocks for 7970 though you'll be just fine there, honestly there isn't a real difference in games performance between the 680s and 7970s once you OC the 7970s. 680 might do better in benchmarks but I haven't noticed differences in games since switching sides. (and I keep an eye on the framerate OSD quite often whenever I game)

I was really torn between the two when I first made the switch (between 7970 to nvidia), i'm sure you're aware wink.gif They're both pretty awesome in their own respects. I do hope nvidia doesn't do this voltage locking nonsense for their next gen gk110. PITA for sure.
Edited by xoleras - 7/7/12 at 5:14pm
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Yeah they're nice cards for sure, i'm enjoying mine very much. I was really happy with the 580 lightnings so I knew the 680s would be just as awesome. Although, I'd say if you have waterblocks for 7970 though you'll be just fine there, honestly there isn't a real difference in games performance between the 680s and 7970s once you OC the 7970s. 680 might do better in benchmarks but I haven't noticed differences in games since switching sides. (and I keep an eye on the framerate OSD quite often whenever I game)
I was really torn between the two when I first made the switch (between 7970 to nvidia), i'm sure you're aware wink.gif They're both pretty awesome in their own respects. I do hope nvidia doesn't do this voltage locking nonsense for their next gen gk110. PITA for sure.

I'm fairly sure the whole locked voltage thing is a side effect of the rushed hack-job they did releasing a mid range unit as a top end this generation. It's the kind of thing you would expect to have seen on a GTX650 after all. They traditionally tend to be pretty good with their top range cards when they're actually designed to be top range cards.
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I'm fairly sure the whole locked voltage thing is a side effect of the rushed hack-job they did releasing a mid range unit as a top end this generation. It's the kind of thing you would expect to have seen on a GTX650 after all. They traditionally tend to be pretty good with their top range cards when they're actually designed to be top range cards.

I'm not sure i'd agree with this. I theorize that the big reason is because of the new GPU boost, i'd guess that is why they implemented dynamic voltage controlled at a driver level. If you look at the clockspeed behaviour on most 680s you'll see that the voltage is constantly fluctuating at 100% load, and auto compensates to maximize performance / temperatures - this feature wasn't present on any other GPU. I'm nearly positive that is the reason. Also, while there is some evidence of gk104 being mid range it just didn't work that way because GK100 failed before it could launch, and gk110 just recnetly taped out....

Being that this is the iteration of gpu boost and dynamic voltage, i'm hoping their next part doesn't lock users into to a max core voltage.
Edited by xoleras - 7/7/12 at 5:57pm
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Yeah they're nice cards for sure, i'm enjoying mine very much. I was really happy with the 580 lightnings so I knew the 680s would be just as awesome. Although, I'd say if you have waterblocks for 7970 though you'll be just fine there, honestly there isn't a real difference in games performance between the 680s and 7970s once you OC the 7970s. 680 might do better in benchmarks but I haven't noticed differences in games since switching sides. (and I keep an eye on the framerate OSD quite often whenever I game)
I was really torn between the two when I first made the switch (between 7970 to nvidia), i'm sure you're aware wink.gif They're both pretty awesome in their own respects. I do hope nvidia doesn't do this voltage locking nonsense for their next gen gk110. PITA for sure.

They do trade blows in games, up until now 7970s dominate in benchmarks, the 680 really only does better in 3dmark 11 (except at the bot where tess disabling is allowed). I was waiting on non-reference PCB 680s before getting one so at least if there is no software voltage the power delivery is improved to make hardmodding worthwhile. Really hoping 680s with more voltage are more competitive in the benchmarks. I also had to get the lightning to add to the lightning collection biggrin.gif .
    
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How would one of these fair against two 580s when stock and overclocked on both cards?

I think it's time to get away my ridiculous SLI setup for single monitor.
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Two 580's will still easily beat a single 680 when OC'd but will be much louder/hotter doing it. I ran my 580's in SLI on the Heaven bench thread and got around 87fps iirc which is well above any single gpu scores for that bench. I believe my best 3dmark11 GPU score with the 580's was around 14k...
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i'm hoping their next part doesn't lock users into to a max core voltage.

Amen brother
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