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look, i'm not arguing that the lightning is not better, i'm just trying to prevent misinformation like the reference cards thorttling so easily. that's a load of crap only if they are sandwiched in sli or you leave the fan profile at default will it start to throttle. i've played hours of bf3 in 90 degree weather without it throttling. point is, if you have a decent fan profile and only 1 card, you shouldn't throttle.
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Decent fan profile=Loud!
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Sometimes, depends, if you want performance you need to forget about quietness. I, for example i rather hear the sound of air flux, than a coil whine, or a bad psu vent.
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Edited by Benchmarksli - 7/9/12 at 3:01pm
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Originally Posted by CalinTM View Post

Very true, man. smile.gif But if nvidia wanted in the first place to put in this 6 series a 3gb vram memory the 680 lightning was pure awesome. I agree with you 3dmark doesn't mean much thing, but for some games like battlefield 3 and Skyrim with many graphical mods installed, the 2gb of the 680 isn't enough, trust me, i had a 680 ref and after i was playing battlefield 3 (all maxed out, 1680x1050) afterburner told me all the vram was full. And after i've played Skyrim for 1-2 hours with about 5gb of graphical mods/texture mods, (NO gameplay mods) all my vram was full, and the game started to stutter a little because of the full vram. And i imagine a 7970 with his 3gb vram will be just enough for playing this games, and still have 300-600mb of free vram.And for me it's a loong wait for a 680 lightning extreme, i could buy the lightning only after 2 weeks from now, what i can say about the lightning extreme, if that card isn't even announced.

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Originally Posted by Benchmarksli View Post

I'm not sure where to start with this one. The fact you "claim" to have owned a 680, but you game at 1680x1050 (talk about a waste of money)? And here is the kicker, you ran out of vram at that resoultion while playing BF3. lachen.gif
Dude, I run a monitor almost twice that of your resolution, and I have not come close to running out of vram. Who are you trying to fool? The lighting is fine with 2gb on a single monitor.

Yea, I second this. 1680 x 1050 and running out of VRAM? You don't know what you're talking about, sadly.
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Im sorry, but IMO the NZXT Phantom Black is not a well cooled case....This, is what you call a well cooled case.
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^This isn't my case, but mines is just like it.
Edit:......i should've used the multi-quote feature. tongue.gif

My case is well cooled. Heck a bare NZXT Phantom was tested to be a very cool case. I just added 4 extra fans to that. Two 200mm, and two 140mm, on top of the ones from factory. I've done my homework before I bought. And while there certainly are much more expensive cases with better materials... they only outperform the Phantom by a slim margin.
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Originally Posted by Benchmarksli View Post

My max temps were 62* and the fan reached 75%(Not noisy at all).... Of course the lightinng is cooler with less noise, why do you think it's $600? Really, it's funny reading the comments. "My lightning be da best! Class of it on!" or "OMG I just had an orgasm, 1388MHz! BOOOYAAH!" biggrin.gif The 680 lighting, especially considering it's feature set(voltage control, no 70* throttle) is the best card on the market right now. You guys don't have to get all defensive trying to defend your new card simply because I posted a Heaven bench that was marginally faster than a lightning owner.... tongue.gif

Dude, i don't even have 680L smile.gif
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look, i'm not arguing that the lightning is not better, i'm just trying to prevent misinformation like the reference cards thorttling so easily. that's a load of crap only if they are sandwiched in sli or you leave the fan profile at default will it start to throttle. i've played hours of bf3 in 90 degree weather without it throttling. point is, if you have a decent fan profile and only 1 card, you shouldn't throttle.

I was right on the cusp of 70C in many games with heavy overclocks on reference, and at 70C all other 680 boards will throttle / undervolt in 13mhz/10mV increments. Lightning does not do this. While you can max out your fan at 80/85% (I think EVGA cutoff is 80%), I did all my testing at 70% fanspeed and there were certainly plenty of times where I was borderline - and some other games that push me over. Crysis 2 maxed out in surround being an example.

I am using a CM cosmos II case which is the best air cooled case on the market (i'm sure you can find reviews on it, its the best and you have to pay for it) so that wasn't an issue. I didn't use 80% fanspeed, perhaps I could have done better but I like not being deaf while gaming as well wink.gif

I'm not saying that reference cards are bad. For the typical customer they are fantastic cards and there are a few golden ones out there. While another poster suggested there is no difference between reference and lightning in terms of clockspeeds, my main point is that the lightning is better tailored to heavy overclocks and gets higher clocks by far on average. Whether you find that worth the 100$ premium is a personal decision, for me I feel it is - I like never throttling, I like low noise, I like having rock solid clocks that don't fluctuate at 70C as other 680s do. I don't have to make compromises on the lightning - I don't have to turn vsync on to prevent high temps, and I don't have to set an insanely high fan curve to prevent throttling. There is no throttling. Hell I can play just cause 2 completely maxed at 2560x1600 with all of the CUDA features enabled WITH vsync off and temps never pass 47C with a default fan profile. This is, once again, my completely biased opinion but I have used a few reference 680s as well as a 690 so I have a good basis for comparison.
Edited by xoleras - 7/9/12 at 12:52pm
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No problem, when the lightning comes in stock for me too, i will show you the afterburner in both battlefield 3 and skyrim.
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@Benchmarksli: Ok, but you need to wait some weeks for it. And i don't want to play at high resolutions, i rather have a solid 60 fps in all circumstances than having fps drops on a big resolution.
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