Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Hard Drives & Storage › SSD › SSD with slow boot up time - (Crucial M4 256GB w/ Windows 7 Ult)
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

SSD with slow boot up time - (Crucial M4 256GB w/ Windows 7 Ult) - Page 8

post #71 of 76
Quote:
Originally Posted by SunTzu83 View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Webster View Post

Hope you were talking about your HDD being secure erased. CLEAN ALL in diskpart is not a secure erase for SSDs only HDDs. You need to use a proper software to secure erase an SSD such as parted magic or hdparm. http://www.overclock.net/t/1227597/how-to-secure-erase-your-solid-state-drive-ssd-with-parted-magic#post_16684060

Thanks very much for the information Sean. So, did I just wear out my SSD even more by writing zeros to the drive?
Don't worry about it, not much really. Just don't do it more. tongue.gif
Quote:
I will read your article since there seems to be a ton of info on there. But before I read, I just want to ask a quick question. Is parted magic and/or hdparm free to use? If not then that is very unfortunate. Any advice or information is welcome of course. Thank again Sean.
Almost everything I suggest will always be free. biggrin.gif
Quote:
Also, you have any guess as to why my SSD was having such a slow boot time? Any educated guess at all is welcomed that way I can have an idea of what *might* of happened. Thanks once more!

Normally this is the most common: http://www.overclock.net/t/1248358/seans-ssd-hdd-troubleshooting-guide
Long boot time:
  • If there are any external USB devices plugged in besides the KB and mouse it can cause Windows to hang upon booting.
  • You may need to adjust settings in your UEFI/BIOS to speed up boot, for example disable splash screens, unused features, etc.
  • Disable programs upon boot/log on. I prefer to use Autoruns: (link), but you can use msconfig/System Configuration.
Quote:
On more thing, my SSD is faster now, could be faster, but I will tolerate it as another reinstall of the OS and drivers and all my apps is a pain in the neck, so I will leave it be for now. But if I run into trouble again, hopefully by that time I have read your article and will know the proper steps of how to remedy the situation.
You could have just done the CLEAN command, just not the CLEAN ALL. I use the CLEAN command all the time. CLEAN wipes the partitions, CLEAN ALL does the same, but adds wear to the drive because it writes 0's to it as well.
Quote:
I have an idea. You think it would be a good idea to make a back up system image on my HDD and then do a secure erase on my SSD and then reinstall the OS with the system image, so I can safe time in installing my drivers and apps? Any ideas? Thanks again and again and again, lol.

Ok after reading your article, I am gonna guess and say that the answer to my question is Yes.
I'd just forget about everything and just leave your system as it is. It will be fine. smile.gif
Quote:
I don't have a spare CD to burn, or a USB drive. Is there a way I can make a bootable partition on my internal HDD with EASEUS Partition Master Home Edition, to replace the USB flash drive, or no?
No idea lol.
Sean's Sandy!
(15 items)
 
Terrorbyte
(15 items)
 
Le Papa's
(10 items)
 
Reply
Sean's Sandy!
(15 items)
 
Terrorbyte
(15 items)
 
Le Papa's
(10 items)
 
Reply
post #72 of 76
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Webster View Post

Don't worry about it, not much really. Just don't do it more. tongue.gif
Almost everything I suggest will always be free. biggrin.gif
Normally this is the most common: http://www.overclock.net/t/1248358/seans-ssd-hdd-troubleshooting-guide
Long boot time:
  • If there are any external USB devices plugged in besides the KB and mouse it can cause Windows to hang upon booting.
  • You may need to adjust settings in your UEFI/BIOS to speed up boot, for example disable splash screens, unused features, etc.
  • Disable programs upon boot/log on. I prefer to use Autoruns: (link), but you can use msconfig/System Configuration.
You could have just done the CLEAN command, just not the CLEAN ALL. I use the CLEAN command all the time. CLEAN wipes the partitions, CLEAN ALL does the same, but adds wear to the drive because it writes 0's to it as well.
I'd just forget about everything and just leave your system as it is. It will be fine. smile.gif
No idea lol.

Haha, thanks man. Well my boot time when the problem started was a minute and 40 seconds. Now it's a minute flat. From what I have read is that if an SSD takes more than 30 seconds to boot, then there is a problem. So my OCD in that department is bothering me for the fact that it takes more than 30 seconds.

Not so much because of the time it takes to boot, cause the boot time now is fine by me, but what is bothering me is because of the statement made (forgot the source) is that if your SSD takes more than 30 seconds to boot then there is something "wrong" with the SSD, and it's the "wrong" factor that bugs me, cause I simply don't want anything "wrong" with my SSD.

But if you think it's fine, then that makes me feel a lot better. However, I'd rather you be honest with me, rather than just telling me something to put me at ease. Thanks again Sean!

Update:

Wow, just simply, wow. I feel so idiotic right now. Ok, I always used the no GUI boot in msconfig, except I simply just left it on after the reinstall cause I honestly didn't see a difference in boot time.

However, and I am so surprised I didn't see this earlier, or see anyone mention this when talking about the no GUI boot feature, but, the "Timeout" feature to the right of the "No GUI Boot" check box, is by default set to 30 seconds. So I changed it to 3 seconds, and now my boot time has improved dramatically.

Strangely, it says that the boot time is the same, but it certainly doesn't feel the same cause it seems to boot a lot faster now. I guess everything is fine I suppose. Thanks regardless for giving me your time.
Edited by SunTzu83 - 7/24/12 at 9:51pm
post #73 of 76


Here is a screenshot of my SSD in AS SSD. The score was like 720 with better numbers before the reinstall. You think perhaps it was because I had Intel Rapid Storage installed? Do you think Intel Rapid Stoage is even necessary? That's why it also reads msachi instead of iaStore (Or so I think, could be just a ACHI controller. Might have to investigate if I have the proper controller installed).
Edited by SunTzu83 - 7/24/12 at 10:10pm
post #74 of 76
Ok forget about the ACHI driver bit. Was totally thinking about something different. Anyways, I restarted my computer and ran AS SSD again. Here ya go. Good night!


Edited by SunTzu83 - 7/24/12 at 10:12pm
post #75 of 76
Quote:
Originally Posted by SunTzu83 View Post


Haha, thanks man. Well my boot time when the problem started was a minute and 40 seconds. Now it's a minute flat. From what I have read is that if an SSD takes more than 30 seconds to boot, then there is a problem. So my OCD in that department is bothering me for the fact that it takes more than 30 seconds.

Not so much because of the time it takes to boot, cause the boot time now is fine by me, but what is bothering me is because of the statement made (forgot the source) is that if your SSD takes more than 30 seconds to boot then there is something "wrong" with the SSD, and it's the "wrong" factor that bugs me, cause I simply don't want anything "wrong" with my SSD.

But if you think it's fine, then that makes me feel a lot better. However, I'd rather you be honest with me, rather than just telling me something to put me at ease. Thanks again Sean!

Update:

Wow, just simply, wow. I feel so idiotic right now. Ok, I always used the no GUI boot in msconfig, except I simply just left it on after the reinstall cause I honestly didn't see a difference in boot time.

However, and I am so surprised I didn't see this earlier, or see anyone mention this when talking about the no GUI boot feature, but, the "Timeout" feature to the right of the "No GUI Boot" check box, is by default set to 30 seconds. So I changed it to 3 seconds, and now my boot time has improved dramatically.

Strangely, it says that the boot time is the same, but it certainly doesn't feel the same cause it seems to boot a lot faster now. I guess everything is fine I suppose. Thanks regardless for giving me your time.
cool smile.gif

You can make it 0 too.

74c20c8dafd743039bd7c00.png
Quote:
Originally Posted by SunTzu83 View Post



Here is a screenshot of my SSD in AS SSD. The score was like 720 with better numbers before the reinstall. You think perhaps it was because I had Intel Rapid Storage installed? Do you think Intel Rapid Stoage is even necessary? That's why it also reads msachi instead of iaStore (Or so I think, could be just a ACHI controller. Might have to investigate if I have the proper controller installed).

I usually get better #'s with the newest SATA driver: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/confirm.aspx?httpDown=http://downloadmirror.intel.com/21592/eng/STOR_Win7_8_11.5.0.1207_PV.exe&lang=eng&Dwnldid=21592&OSFullname=%0A
Sean's Sandy!
(15 items)
 
Terrorbyte
(15 items)
 
Le Papa's
(10 items)
 
Reply
Sean's Sandy!
(15 items)
 
Terrorbyte
(15 items)
 
Le Papa's
(10 items)
 
Reply
post #76 of 76
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Webster View Post

cool smile.gif
You can make it 0 too.
74c20c8dafd743039bd7c00.png
I usually get better #'s with the newest SATA driver: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/confirm.aspx?httpDown=http://downloadmirror.intel.com/21592/eng/STOR_Win7_8_11.5.0.1207_PV.exe&lang=eng&Dwnldid=21592&OSFullname=%0A

That's cool. Unfortunately, my system is incompatible with those drivers, so I can't see what kind of numbers I get with them. I tried, and all I got was BSOD. So I will have to stick with my Intel(R) 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 6 Port SATA AHCI Controller - 1C02 drivers.

EDIT:

Course that was the driver I was using cause I didn't install Intel Rapid Storage drivers for my ASRock board, which I did recently, which are the 10.8.0.1003 driver and is the latest not only for the ASRock board, but I also found the same drivers version on the Intel website and it also says "Latest" on their website.

I originally thought the BSOD was because I installed the driver without first installing Intel Rapid Storage, so I reinstalled it and got BSOD still anyways. So I reverted back to the 10.8.0.1003 drivers instead of the 11.5.0.1207 drivers.

After looking more closely at the driver link you provided, I realized that those drivers are for Intel only motherboards, lol. So that explains the BSOD. tongue.gif

Here is a copy paste of the MAIN title:


AHCI: Intel® Rapid Storage Technology Driver for Intel Desktop Boards


Which I should have read and the product list it supports, located in the driver detail section:

This download is valid for the product(s) listed below.
Intel® Desktop Board DB65AL
Intel® Desktop Board DB75EN
Intel® Desktop Board DH61AG
Intel® Desktop Board DH61BE
Intel® Desktop Board DH61CR
Intel® Desktop Board DH61DL
Intel® Desktop Board DH61HO
Intel® Desktop Board DH61KVCH
Intel® Desktop Board DH61SA
Intel® Desktop Board DH61SKCH
Intel® Desktop Board DH61WW
Intel® Desktop Board DH61ZE

So, it was a lol moment. tongue.gif

But thanks for providing the link anyways! Take care!
Edited by SunTzu83 - 7/26/12 at 9:11pm
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: SSD
Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Hard Drives & Storage › SSD › SSD with slow boot up time - (Crucial M4 256GB w/ Windows 7 Ult)