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post #241 of 840
http://www.overclock.net/t/1274098/zowie-am-internals
You only need to cut some of the lens and make a groove in the shell.
post #242 of 840
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Originally Posted by DeMS View Post

AM uses a Kingsys lens, which has a different base shape as the one Avago uses. So yes, it involves cutting plastic.
Afaik :
They need(ed) some kind of software correction to avoid jittering, which when eggagerated it is noticeable as angle snapping.
Interesting that you consider skipping as a negative accel phenomenon. wink.gif
Let's consider two types of skipping :
- Mouse doesn't track anymore -> Then negative accel = accel from the mouse "user". Magic!
- Mouse goes to one of the Y axis (points to ground-ceiling) -> Negative accel should only be able to stop your mouse, and at much, if we interpret it as an accel going on the opposite way, we would have that at faster speeds to one side, we would get our cursor to go to the other side. We can't reproduce that empirically, so no tongue.gif
As far as I can tell, some sensors just skip, without any noticeable negative accel. It could be also made via SROM to make the sensor track up to a certain speed and then just "disconnect" the data path to the USB cable to not to get negative accel too. In any event, even if those two phenomenons might be close in space and time, it doesn't mean they are the same.

I never said they were the same wink.gif, just that in both cases the sensor "looses tracking" due to too much movement speed. Skipping can have many faces but in fact it still all boils down to the same causes that also produce the effects of negative accel, which is why I put them in the same box above.
post #243 of 840
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Originally Posted by mousefan View Post

I respect their work, but none of us saw them testing and none of us know if they did anyway.
Maybe the second Reviewer just talked the same as the first without testing anything while the first Reviwer made a failtest.
I know sometimes I am almost a lil bit to negative when it comes to those Reviewguys or Internetstatements at all, but that's the Internet where alot of wrong stuff gets spread very fast.

I find that disrespectful. I spent over 30 hours with the mouse and a good one hour of that was strictly for acceleration testing in four different games.
post #244 of 840
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Originally Posted by mousefan View Post

Hm I see.
Na the thing is the Intellis are still one of the most important Gamermice ever created. Simple and functionally correct and good. Still used by Pros these Days. ^^

Being used by a "pro" is no way a measurement of a good mouse. You can get good with pretty much anything granted you dump the time into it.

That's not to say that the intellimouse isn't a good mouse. The sensor is really accurate granted it's only 400 DPI.
post #245 of 840
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Originally Posted by DeMS View Post

Could you specify what is that "unreal speed you won't reach while gaming"?
I mean, it is not strange for me to swipe the mouse at up to 3.5~4 m/s, and assuming most people rarely exceeds 2 m/s, I guess I would be one of those to get to those speeds.

The only way I able to produce acceleration results were when I moved the mouse as fast as I could about six-to-eight inches. If you're the type of player that enjoys games like Unreal Tournament and regularly do crazy 180 degree turns before firing then you might run into it. However, in games like Team Fortress 2, Battlefield 3, Counter-Strike: Source, etc. I can't imagine someone moving the mouse at that speed. Anything less had no faults.
post #246 of 840
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Originally Posted by JonnyBigBoss View Post

The only way I able to produce acceleration results were when I moved the mouse as fast as I could about six-to-eight inches. If you're the type of player that enjoys games like Unreal Tournament and regularly do crazy 180 degree turns before firing then you might run into it. However, in games like Team Fortress 2, Battlefield 3, Counter-Strike: Source, etc. I can't imagine someone moving the mouse at that speed. Anything less had no faults.

Now this sounds great!

Btw. with what kind of mousepad have you tested it?
post #247 of 840
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Originally Posted by MONVMENTVM View Post

Now this sounds great!
Btw. with what kind of mousepad have you tested it?

Steelseries QcK cloth.
post #248 of 840
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Originally Posted by JonnyBigBoss View Post

Steelseries QcK cloth.

Great... the ADNS-9500 and 9800 did have troubles with negative accel on these. So as I said in a previous post it's no wonder the Taipan shows it here too with very fast swipes.

If that's the only problem and there are no positive accel issues with this mouse it should turn out great smile.gif.


Edit: Maybe it would be helpful to update your review to include the information of the used mousepad (and that it might work better with other pads). Ultimatively you could give it another acceleration test run with a different mousepad (plastic or glass pad maybe). Or if none available to try it simply on your desk without pad and check how the mouse behaves there.
Edited by MONVMENTVM - 6/30/12 at 12:00pm
post #249 of 840
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Originally Posted by NuFon View Post

DeMS have you tried swapping the AM's lens for another 3090 compatible lens? Should give you higher tracking speeds but increase the LOD.

Wut?! List me compatible lenses, do it, do it now!!

EDIT: nvm, saw the other posts.

So basically just cut out the base a bit more and place in the DA sensor and you're done?
Edited by CorruptBE - 6/30/12 at 2:16pm
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post #250 of 840
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Originally Posted by CorruptBE View Post

Wut?! List me compatible lenses, do it, do it now!!

Avago's offical is the only other lens that fits after modding. (Shell or lens itself)

3rd party lens or hardware in that matter is typicaly used to cut cost.
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