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Originally Posted by NuFon View Post

http://www.overclock.net/t/1274098/zowie-am-internals
You only need to cut some of the lens and make a groove in the shell.

Out of my reach until I get a Dremel to toy with, but I've already considered it smile.gif
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Originally Posted by MONVMENTVM View Post

I never said they were the same wink.gif, just that in both cases the sensor "looses tracking" due to too much movement speed. Skipping can have many faces but in fact it still all boils down to the same causes that also produce the effects of negative accel, which is why I put them in the same box above.

Good thing we're on the same page here. I mostly poked you with that because it's important we agree on some terms, for people reading our posts might not get misinformed since we always expect a certain level of knowledge on some aspects of mice sensors behaivor.
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Originally Posted by Skylit View Post

Being used by a "pro" is no way a measurement of a good mouse. You can get good with pretty much anything granted you dump the time into it.
That's not to say that the intellimouse isn't a good mouse. The sensor is really accurate granted it's only 400 DPI.

I think the "pro" aspect has been beaten to death by now tongue.gif
I used to play with a potato (mechanical mouse) and still beat the big boys, so yes, you can do "well" with a "potato" if you might, but you will have to circumvent the limitations of such hardware, until you're finally limitated by it.
That's exactly what happens with the Intellimouse, it has many limits which need to be circumvented, and at some point it became a limiting factor for high-tier gamers, so it's being replaced by newer, less restrictive models as the way to play the game successfully evolves.
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Originally Posted by JonnyBigBoss View Post

The only way I able to produce acceleration results were when I moved the mouse as fast as I could about six-to-eight inches. If you're the type of player that enjoys games like Unreal Tournament and regularly do crazy 180 degree turns before firing then you might run into it. However, in games like Team Fortress 2, Battlefield 3, Counter-Strike: Source, etc. I can't imagine someone moving the mouse at that speed. Anything less had no faults.

I am certainly one of those crazy 180º turners, and I do that on most if not all games.

So if this ain't corrected, or if it happens also on hardpads, I guess the mouse is not for me (yet).

Thanks for your honest impressions smile.gif
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Originally Posted by MONVMENTVM View Post

Great... the ADNS-9500 and 9800 did have troubles with negative accel on these. So as I said in a previous post it's no wonder the Taipan shows it here too with very fast swipes.
If that's the only problem and there are no positive accel issues with this mouse it should turn out great smile.gif.
Edit: Maybe it would be helpful to update your review to include the information of the used mousepad (and that it might work better with other pads). Ultimatively you could give it another acceleration test run with a different mousepad (plastic or glass pad maybe). Or if none available to try it simply on your desk without pad and check how the mouse behaves there.

Agreed on your edit. It would be useful for someone with a hardpad to test for negative acceleration aswell. It might only affect cloth pads smile.gif
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Originally Posted by CorruptBE View Post

Wut?! List me compatible lenses, do it, do it now!!
EDIT: nvm, saw the other posts.
So basically just cut out the base a bit more and place in the DA sensor and you're done?

Any lense from any optical mouse should work, provided they are coupled with an Avago sensor.

Then, you would have to compensate for the CPI difference wink.gif
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Originally Posted by Skylit View Post

Avago's offical is the only other lens that fits after modding. (Shell or lens itself)
3rd party lens or hardware in that matter is typicaly used to cut cost.

Or to gain some CPI as the Kingsys was designed to?
post #252 of 840
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Originally Posted by DeMS View Post

Or to gain some CPI as the Kingsys was designed to?
Well Yes, that too. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by DeMS View Post

Any lense from any optical mouse should work, provided they are coupled with an Avago sensor.

Have fun modding Logitechs inside. Would prove rather difficult don't you think? tongue.gif
Edited by Skylit - 6/30/12 at 3:19pm
post #253 of 840
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Originally Posted by Skylit View Post

Well Yes, that too. smile.gif
Have fun modding Logitechs inside. Would prove rather difficult don't you think? tongue.gif

Difficult = fun! thumb.gif
post #254 of 840
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Originally Posted by JonnyBigBoss View Post

Steelseries QcK cloth.
You should include that info in the review man, testing laser mice on a cloth mousepad = bad. Overall, that review is not so good tbh.
post #255 of 840
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Originally Posted by helioNz4R View Post

You should include that info in the review man, testing laser mice on a cloth mousepad = bad. Overall, that review is not so good tbh.

Can't please everyone.
post #256 of 840
I thought his (your) review was quite nice.
post #257 of 840
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Originally Posted by Skylit View Post

I thought his (your) review was quite nice.

Me 2... skipping all the junk like how the material of the packaging feels kookoo.gif and getting straight to the point.
post #258 of 840
Great first post mr new person.

The review was good.
post #259 of 840
I thought the review was middle of the road, but I have higher expectations these days. He made a few decent points but it needed more elaboration. I would've expected to at-least show the surface used, and try other surfaces, show how the mouse glides, show the cursor on-screen, etc. I also find your response "cant please everyone" as an excuse that you don't have room for improvement. I await someone who is going to do a more thorough review.
post #260 of 840
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Originally Posted by helioNz4R View Post

You should include that info in the review man, testing laser mice on a cloth mousepad = bad. Overall, that review is not so good tbh.

so he should only test in conditions that favor the mouse? why is it bad to test all surfaces to show where a mouse might be weak? There are plenty of players who prefer cloth pads for their cushioning and friction/control properties

while I think it might be bad to draw any definitive conclusion based on only one tracking surface, that doesn't mean the test is invalid. If a mouse is weak on a particular surface it should be made known for sure. While laser mice have been weaker on cloth pads in the past, it doesn't hurt to keep testing because chances are we'll eventually get the "perfect" laser instead of just assuming things will never get better
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