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post #311 of 840
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Originally Posted by MONVMENTVM View Post

You guys are a little overreacting to end0rphine's post wink.gif. We don't know too much about the negative accel. Chances are it's only a dark cloth pad issue and might happen only to some really extreme low sensers. We should wait for more on that but my guess is that's it the same or better than other ADNS-9800 mice.
Bad mouse feet? I don't remember the last Razer mouse that had real teflon feet and which were thick enough to start with.
Driver issues? Show me a Razer product that didn't have these in the beginning (except for their mousepads maybe wink.gif).
Scroll wheels? They sucked in every recent Razer mouse but they worked and did their job (their best imho was on the Razer Krait: optical with a ball bearing).
So afterall... if there is no positive accel and the negative accel appears only at very high speeds on certain surfaces it should still be a killer mouse. Shape looks really good, functionality is decent and all that paired with a laser that finally does well in terms of tracking and we should have a winner.

these are also my thoughts

tracking performance and shape are my #1 concerns, some of those other issues are pretty trivial otherwise. However it kind of sucks that those issues did seem to slip through in oversight; some of them seem so easily avoidable and thus what could have been a virtually perfect mouse for its shape can't really do better than "4/5"
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Perhaps some aspects could lend itself to hyperbole depending on the level of significance anyone places on it. The feet won't be fixed for awhile until replacement feet are in the market. The cord is the same on their other mice, but placed lower for some reason so it scratches the mousepad, and because of the cord plug - it stays fixed on the surface regardless of how much I bend it upwards. The surface is good though - plastic is fine in my books and the rubber on the side is real rubber.

But there is too much reliance on drivers - DPI and macros etc depend on the drivers. Lights are remembered. I just can't stand this scratching though - fast swipe screecchhhahhh (checks to see if mousepad fibers were ripped off) sure thats exaggerated but it feels horrible. For the price it's hard to recommend unless you really love the shape, and sure the shape really is pretty good. There's other mice that do well too - Savu, G400, etc for less.
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Looks like the US Razer site is selling them now. I just ordered one, damn tax and shipping brought the mouse up to almost 100$sniper.gif
post #314 of 840
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Originally Posted by end0rphine View Post

We already know everything about it..
Gist:
Negative accel (can confirm)
bad mouse feet
cable is abit low - causes scratching on mousepad
DPI switching and profiles relies on driver - also lags when switching DPI
Driver crashes all the time - YMMV
Good shape
Good weight
Scroll wheel with tactile feedback, but feels bad
Haven't realized the purpose of the surface calibration - LOD is already good enough.

But do you need the drivers?
I never used drivers in my deathadders, just put the settings then uninstalled em.
Never use dpi switch so thats fine for me.

Weird that razer use bad mousefeet, feet in again deathadder are top notch, going the steelseries route ;/

You forgot the mousebuttons, good / bad feeling, likeness of any other mouse etc.

No problems for me with anything if you can run without the drivers like any other mouse on the market.
Scroll wheel might be annoying if it feels back though.

Shape,weight, button feel is the nr1 prio for me.
post #315 of 840
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But do you need the drivers?
I never used drivers in my deathadders, just put the settings then uninstalled em.
Never use dpi switch so thats fine for me.
Weird that razer use bad mousefeet, feet in again deathadder are top notch, going the steelseries route ;/
You forgot the mousebuttons, good / bad feeling, likeness of any other mouse etc.
No problems for me with anything if you can run without the drivers like any other mouse on the market.
Scroll wheel might be annoying if it feels back though.
Shape,weight, button feel is the nr1 prio for me.

Clicky; not hard, not too easy (leaning alittle more on easy) to press - short travel distance. Can't really compare it to other mice - feels quite different. It's pretty good. Ok it kinda feels like the abyssus slightly less feedback in response.

The feet aren't bad I think its just that they're so thin - even if they were good I wouldn't notice since the bottom scrapes my mousepad.

The DPI defaults to its regular steps of 400 - fast - really fast if you don't have drivers. I can't test what those default steps are since I'm not on that computer atm. You won't need drivers if you use 400 DPI I think.
Edited by end0rphine - 7/6/12 at 8:01am
post #316 of 840
I wonder, does changing the lift off distance have any influence on the negative acceleration?
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Originally Posted by end0rphine View Post

Clicky; not hard, not too easy (leaning alittle more on easy) to press - short travel distance. Can't really compare it to other mice - feels quite different. It's pretty good. Ok it kinda feels like the abyssus slightly less feedback in response.
The feet aren't bad I think its just that they're so thin - even if they were good I wouldn't notice since the bottom scrapes my mousepad.
The DPI defaults to its regular steps of 400 - fast - really fast if you don't have drivers. I can't test what those default steps are since I'm not on that computer atm. You won't need drivers if you use 400 DPI I think.

Thanks, very weird about the drivers though.
I mean all newer mice remember dpi settings, hell even the kana does.
Dealbreaker for me, I hope its something they can fix, hate being forced to use mousedrivers.
I use 800-1000dpi depending on mouse so ;/

Quite stupid of razer to cheap out on mousefeet, feels the price is going up but small stuff gets worse from the in my eyes legendary deathadder which hit everything perfect.

The mouseclicks on DA is something I miss, been using alot of harder to press mice lately. Cept for G400 which is good aswell.
post #318 of 840
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Originally Posted by CorruptBE View Post

I wonder, does changing the lift off distance have any influence on the negative acceleration?

Just tested it on my hayate and desk with max lift off. Still accel.
Also seem to be getting positive accel.

450
That was on my white desk

tested again

431

Same result on hayate. Its strange because at first I had negative accel but now it shows positive

EDIT: tried it again with calibration off - same result on cloth and desk.

Accel was most evident at high speeds around 2.8ms
Movement around 2ms was fairly good I think. Bare in mind this is based on feeling.
Edited by end0rphine - 7/6/12 at 9:39am
post #319 of 840
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Originally Posted by end0rphine View Post

Just tested it on my hayate and desk with max lift off. Still accel.
Also seem to be getting positive accel.
450
That was on my white desk
tested again
431
Same result on hayate. Its strange because at first I had negative accel but now it shows positive
EDIT: tried it again with calibration off - same result on cloth and desk.
Accel was most evident at high speeds around 2.8ms
Movement around 2ms was fairly good I think. Bare in mind this is based on feeling.

whoa... that sucks. Hope someone can confirm this (or rather the opposite).
post #320 of 840
Hey,

I'm trying to confirm the accel on a proper hard pad. Would this one be sufficient to tell if it for sure does on a hard pad?

http://store.razerzone.com/store/razerusa/en_US/pd/productID.232460500

It's the only one available to me, but I figure at least I'll be able to test it on a Razer hard pad that's not completely dark and will be a pre-calibrated in the software.

Thanks,
George K
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