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No offence, but that was pure idiocy.

Not once did I specifically say that a new razor mouse will be built poorly, just that I've read tons of review, and have experience of how badly built razor products are.

Now according to what I've read in the other threads you've posted in, you are simply a Razor fanboy, who seems to be unhappy with his purchase and is now in denial and trying to convince himself that he made the right choice.
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Originally Posted by snipekill2445 View Post

No offence, but that was pure idiocy.
Not once did I specifically say that a new razor mouse will be built poorly, just that I've read tons of review, and have experience of how badly built razor products are.
Now according to what I've read in the other threads you've posted in, you are simply a Razor fanboy, who seems to be unhappy with his purchase and is now in denial and trying to convince himself that he made the right choice.

Most pheripherals companies do not make the products in-house, but rather get on agreements with the same number of few factories, so whatever brand you were thinking of that's better than Razer probably uses a similar or the same factory - or even worse.

The topic about Razer quality control is probably justified but blown out of proportion. It is one of the highest selling peripheral brands when it comes to mice, mousepads and keyboards, so the reports about malfunctioning or lower quality parts are going to be more than most other brands.

Summing it up, there will be more complaints about Razer products than most competitors, simply because they tend to sell more (maybe not more than Logitech at some stage, but I'm not willing to bet against it), so the noise complainers will do will be also more than people with bad experiences with other products. However, the rate of failure of Razer products should be equal than that of other brands, for they share components (switches are Omron, sensors are Avago/Phillips, MCU's are also bought and not custom made...) which are critical on those failures.

On the other subject, I will only point out that engaging into personal fights might only shorten your account's life. It might not have any other effect towards the rest of us, so I would urge you to consider changing your behavior to a more suitable, friendly one smile.gif
post #353 of 840
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Originally Posted by woll3 View Post

8200 dpi and circles?
383

Thanks, pretty much what I wanted to know.. smile.gif


@ Last few responses: Tooling mechanics / design and coating can give the impression and feel of a higher quality product. That isn't to say that all products are created equal even if they're using the same ABS plastics. I can easily tell a good job from a bad job, cheaper methods to more expensive ones. etc etc...

I've hinted this quite a bit through out various post, but DeMS has explained the basic operation of most companies from a manufacturing perspective. I know where most of these mice come from, but I think it's best that I hold on to that information for the time being.

I think snipekills opinion comes from the external portion of what goes into a mouse and while I can agree that previous Razer tooling isn't the best, it's far from the worse. Ergonomics themselves are of course fairly good.

PS: In case anyone was wondering, my general impression of the Taipan is pretty good, even if I only had pictures to go by.
Edited by Skylit - 7/8/12 at 6:23am
post #354 of 840
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Originally Posted by woll3 View Post

8200 dpi and circles?

383

That is pretty smooth for 8200 dpi.
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Also, everyone please be nicer to each other when discussing topics.
Edited by Riou - 7/8/12 at 7:58am
post #355 of 840
Yup. It's a form of cursor smoothing. It can be disabled, but I don't know if individual registries can be written (with or without it).

The benefit as you see is nice precision. Something A9500 mice on max DPI cant get anywhere near... Well if that matters to you.. smile.gif
post #356 of 840
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Originally Posted by Skylit View Post

Yup. It's a form of cursor smoothing. It can be disabled, but I don't know if individual registries can be written (with or without it).
The benefit as you see is nice precision. Something A9500 mice on max DPI cant get anywhere near... Well if that matters to you.. smile.gif

I'd call it jitter minimization... precision for me is exact 1:1 movement, which here is not really the case when the tracking is smoothened wink.gif. So yeah hope it can be disabled. And good luck to the people who think they need 8200 dpi to gain "precision" but then of course enable that mouse smoothing because the mouse is just too "precise" and shows their hand trebling and causing jitter all over.
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Well its obviously enabled on 8200 CPI, but again, I don't know if individual registries can be written with or without it meaning the smoothing effect could also be applied to the lower range like it was in a couple early A9800 mice I've tested. (This was pretty noticeable to me)

I didn't want to mention anything right away as I wanted to see if early reviewers and purchasers could notice anything, but I suppose they could just answer now since I revealed this "feature". Ultimately, I think Razer only choose the 9800 because it was capable of emulating precise tracking at a higher CPI range than the PTE.

PTE is probably still more accurate without the coding voodoo, sadly...


Edit: At least there's hope that they correct things in the future. Razer has a pretty good history of updating products capable of USB flash.
Edited by Skylit - 7/8/12 at 7:42am
post #358 of 840
You have me wrong, I absolutely love my mouse, just not the keyboard, It really is made of cheapness, Especially for how much I paid for it.

Also I'm not the one starting fights, I simply stated my opinion and experience.
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Hey guys.. is this mouse good for fps ? like quake or fast moves in CS 1.6 ? Im lowsensitivity player
post #360 of 840
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Originally Posted by Skylit View Post

Well its obviously enabled on 8200 CPI, but again, I don't know if individual registries can be written with or without it meaning the smoothing effect could also be applied to the lower range like it was in a couple early A9800 mice I've tested. (This was pretty noticeable to me)
I didn't want to mention anything right away as I wanted to see if early reviewers and purchasers could notice anything, but I suppose they could just answer now since I revealed this "feature". Ultimately, I think Razer only choose the 9800 because it was capable of emulating precise tracking at a higher CPI range than the PTE.
PTE is probably still more accurate without the coding voodoo, sadly...
Edit: At least there's hope that they correct things in the future. Razer has a pretty good history of updating products capable of USB flash.


Not a professional or educated opinion but if you say the PTE is more accurate than the 9500 why do I get absolutely slaughtered in CS:S and BF3 if I use my Nagga, or Lachesis that both have the PTE, but do much better with my G500 that has the 9500?
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