Razer Taipan - Page 72

Originally Posted by kornedbeefy 

So is the Synapses 2.0 not the major issue that everyone was complaining about the past few weeks? I shelved my Taipan after reading those threads.
You know I forgot another major issue I had with the Taipan. Whenever I changed dpi settings there was about a second pause. Anyone else have that issue? That was the deal breaker for me. I had forgotten about it because I haven't played any fps games in a while so didn't need to change dpi. No one else have this issue?
Still I like the shape of the mouse for my smaller hands/grip style. It would be nice to have the two issues above cleared up. The CM Recon I bought has a fat butt (typical palm style) so its not as comfortable to use.

Originally Posted by BinZz 

Nope , how can i do that ?

Originally Posted by MONVMENTVM 

phew... search the forums for acceleration test or something, I'm sure you'll find some explanations. Basically it all comes down to moving the mouse in a fast hand motion in one direction first and then moving it back as slowly as you can until it reaches the exact same physical position on your pad as it did before (it's best to put something heavy like a book where you start the movement from and where you move back until it touches that book again).
If the cursor moved further than its initial position you just experienced positive acceleration. On the other hand if the cursor didn't even reach its initial position it had negative acceleration.
100 bucks says you'll experience positive acceleration with the Tapian . Nah but I'm saving you the trouble and telling you from the start that it has acceleration.

Originally Posted by BinZz 

I have just done that.
I might be wrong but.
I did the following.
Got a heavy book placed it on the pad.
manually placed an obstacle at the end of the pad to force accurate end and start physical points.
Then moved the mouse fast between those two points once , and memorized the two places on the screen (human error range of about 3cm on a 27" 1080p screen)
repeated the same movement with a slow speed (was worried ) the results are almost the same ("almost" cause i am not sure cause of the human error possibility)

Originally Posted by MONVMENTVM 

You don't need a physical end point because the distance traveled back to the book will be the same as from the book to where you stopped . The end point will probably just restrict the speed you can achieve with your hand (because you'll slow down in order not to smash that book from the table^^).
Also instead of memorizing the cursor position you can align it at the edge of the screen for example. Just try to put it at the edge of the screen when the mouse also touches the book. You could also try firing up a FPS game and aim your gun at some edge, like a building or something and do the same procedure.
The acceleration will be somewhere like 5%. It's really not much, but it's definitely enough that when you aim for the head you'll miss it if you do a reflex shot. Also it's non-linear, meaning that at some speeds it can be more or less than at other speeds.

Originally Posted by BinZz 

Well , i need this to make sure for it to be more accurate.
5% can't be measured in normal conditions.
I did memorize two lines on the screen, and it was there.
Any way.
Those 5% might make a difference for a way more professional players.
If you are one of those , i think you are probably are one, can you please show me a video of you playing some game to see how good can you actually aim , and to see how the mouse affects that.
Note : this is not i-dare-you type of a request , i just want to know

Originally Posted by BinZz 

Well , i need this to make sure for it to be more accurate.
5% can't be measured in normal conditions.
I did memorize two lines on the screen, and it was there.
Any way.
Those 5% might make a difference for a way more professional players.
If you are one of those , i think you are probably are one, can you please show me a video of you playing some game to see how good can you actually aim , and to see how the mouse affects that.
Note : this is not i-dare-you type of a request , i just want to know

Originally Posted by MONVMENTVM 

The second important thing is what happened to me a lot of times and what I see pros doing regularly is being able to do these extremely fast and precise reflex shots. This is what's going to get you called "cheater" on most public servers and what will even get you kicked several times a day, if you have a good one. Imaging running somewhere and an enemy that just heard you doing that is sneaking out somewhere behind you, maybe even at mid to long range. He fires a shot at you but misses... and before he can even fire a second shot you just turned around in a blazingly fast movement and made a one-shot header without even having to focus yourself on aiming at him, leaving him in surprise of what just happened. Now if that was for the first time he'll be like "what the heck was that?" and sometimes even you'll be surprised of what you were just able to do. I remember a lot of times where I just stood there in surprise after such a moment because my reflex was faster than myself realizing of what just even happened. If that happens a second time, some will start calling you cheater but after the third time pretty much everyone will do that. But in the end that's what makes a pro a pro... they can do that on a regular basis with a shockingly high precision.

Originally Posted by MONVMENTVM 

I haven't played anything for a long time now because university kinda eats away all the time I'd have for that. Also I never played professionally, just for the fun of it. That being said I got my arse kicked hard by some real players plenty of times, but I did the same to your average public server kind of gamers, where I was on the first or second place more times than not.
That being said to be good as an individual I think there are two important things. One is to have a sense of what your opponent is thinking and what he's going to do, because outsmarting and surprising your opponents is what makes for easy kills. Not to mention that you can trap your enemies easily if you know what they're going to do. Now this is not an easy thing to learn -- if there even is a way to learn such a thing.
The second important thing is what happened to me a lot of times and what I see pros doing regularly is being able to do these extremely fast and precise reflex shots. This is what's going to get you called "cheater" on most public servers and what will even get you kicked several times a day, if you have a good one. Imaging running somewhere and an enemy that just heard you doing that is sneaking out somewhere behind you, maybe even at mid to long range. He fires a shot at you but misses... and before he can even fire a second shot you just turned around in a blazingly fast movement and made a one-shot header without even having to focus yourself on aiming at him, leaving him in surprise of what just happened. Now if that was for the first time he'll be like "what the heck was that?" and sometimes even you'll be surprised of what you were just able to do. I remember a lot of times where I just stood there in surprise after such a moment because my reflex was faster than myself realizing of what just even happened. If that happens a second time, some will start calling you cheater but after the third time pretty much everyone will do that. But in the end that's what makes a pro a pro... they can do that on a regular basis with a shockingly high precision. And that's where 5% deviation matters -- especially if it is non-linear. Sometimes the crosshair will end on the head, other times it will end just before or after the head, which will make you miss that kill. Not to mention that being able to do a reflex shot has to do with muscle memory and eye-hand-coordination. If the crosshair moves for different distances every time you move your hand for the same physical distance your muscle memory won't be able to learn as quickly. So not only will the precision suffer on reflex shots but it will also lengthen your learning process.
Of course if you don't care about these things, you'll be fine. The acceleration is still little enough that most people won't notice the effects (other than missing reflex shots more often). If you want to get really good at aiming though, I'd recommend getting a mouse that is able of perfect 1:1 tracking.

Originally Posted by BinZz 

I'm not as good as described at the end but , i can do that some times.
Now , back to the topic.
Those 5% are human testing errors (at least for me)
I want to know if there is any confirmation (real confirmation , not someone's opinion) that this mouse actually having slightly increased acceleration ?
And if so , Why do some people say its negative acceleration , and here is said positive acceleration ?
Now , what i understand is , if a certain mouse behaves in a certain way or a certain acceleration as claimed by some in this topic , it will still behave the same everytime.
The problem will be with the user cause he is just not used to this reactions of the mouse , and that was the problem i had in the beginning of using this mouse , but once i started focusing on actually using the mouse instead of thinking that it is problematic , this problem have gone away.
In other words , after time i got used to the new way the mouse moves.
keep in mind also , those so claimed manual tests can't be that accurate cause you also need to move the mouse while keeping it pointing at the same direction , if you move the mouse around itself , the mouse will move in the screen.