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Deathadder Left handed. I wanted to learn how to play left handed (Learned RH) and couldn't think of a better way as I would get frustrated with ambidextrous mice and swap back. I can game generally well both ways *troubled by keyboard and movement left wise, but have more experience on right . smile.gif To clear things up, I'm LEFT handed lol
I would be on a Sensei or CM SPAWN if I continued right handed, but I like this challenge.
Optical vs laser isn't really a debate for me (Unless you're talking about PTE vs CMOS picture based) CMOS based lasers have a similar feel to LED based designs with a few trade offs here and there.

I have a Deathadder Left Handed as well, but in some ways, it's been a problem. Weird driver issues (have to use an older version for the left and right clicks to be switched) and also the mouse is a bit big for my hands (my hands are not that big), as in I would have to sometimes stretch to easily press the thumb button closest to the front of the mouse. And weird glitches here and there of it cutting out when media is put into the computer (discs or flash drives), but other than that, it's worked great, but I just hope that the Taipan really does pan out, because the weight is less than this, it's a bit smaller and ambidextrous with more buttons, so I don't have to worry about the firmware not letting me switch the left and right mouse buttons, considering they wouldn't need to be switched. If you have one for reference, I used a Logitech MX310 for about 6 years or so before moving to this mouse. So yeah, I hope for the best, same with the Sensei RAW.
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Looks like a Sensei Killer with that (useless) cpi, the ambidexterous shape and double 2 sided buttons.
I think the dual sensor idea is pretty good if its used well. I'd use the laser for the LOD and the optical sensor for tracking tho (since the main problem of optical mice is the high LoD, while laser based ones have much lower LoD... but that's me)... The 8200cpi seem real (by real I mean no-interpolation), low weight is also a sexy feature.

Looking forward for the reviews.
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post #83 of 840
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Looks like a Sensei Killer with that (useless) cpi, the ambidexterous shape and double 2 sided buttons.
I think the dual sensor idea is pretty good if its used well. I'd use the laser for the LOD and the optical sensor for tracking tho (since the main problem of optical mice is the high LoD, while laser based ones have much lower LoD... but that's me)... The 8200cpi seem real (by real I mean no-interpolation), low weight is also a sexy feature.
Looking forward for the reviews.

Razer says laser is for tracking and optical is to detect LOD. Optical can be tuned for extremely low LOD like what Zowie does with the EC/AM. Laser has better paper specs than optical.
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Zowie achieves low lift off distance (Multiple surface types and colors) with a custom 3rd party lens (factory made) that kind of acts as a cut off for light refraction. Similar to a "tape fix".

I don't really agree with the repercussions a custom lens or magnification has, but I suppose it works for their target audience. Which is great and I support them for providing solutions to niche gamers.
Edited by Skylit - 6/11/12 at 8:58pm
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I had the Mamba and the liftoff was large and didn't change no matter what I set in the software. Tracking felt good, but I wasn't sure at that time if it had acceleration or not.

So what Skylit? You say 4G is flawless (no accel if adjusted so, no prediction and whatever, low lift off because of the optical?). I always heared Phillips twin eye (4G) was trash and stuff.

I'm confused as always.
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PTE is dual interferometry doppler. It uses "real" Lasers and tracks on a Z axis as well X and Y. Twas cool, but at the same time caused issues with lift off and cursor jumping from vibrations. This is where "Z-Axis" issue came to be known.

Razer "fixed" this with a 2nd optical sensor, but funny enough the 4G mice apperantly now have an issue with dynamic DPI scaling which I would imagine feels like acceleration. The sensors " PTE + Avago S3888 themselves are accel free.

9800 and 9500 are CMOS based (aka same technology as modern LED based opticals sensors) They use a VCSEL opposed to a standard LED.

Lets say the 9500 was developed with an LED instead of a built in VCSEL. The likelyhood is that the sensor would still have that small acceleration curve. This is due to a completely different architecture compared to previous designs.

Instead of the common Laser vs optical labeling, I'll make effort to say CMOS laser vs Optical vs Laser.
Edited by Skylit - 6/12/12 at 5:29pm
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I don't feel more educated still.

So basically laser mice have acceleration that you can't turn off even if you set it to zero in the options, right?

I tried the Mamba 4G last year. The liftoff thing didn't work, no matter how I set it in the options liftoff was same. I tried Naos also, sensor performance was odd, then I grabbed my Deathadder (which at that time I didn't use for a year) and it felt like a boost, so damned accurate. DA went where I wanted it, Naos performed so random and unprecise. Mamba 4G was playable though.

Still I'm confused.
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I don't feel more educated still.
So basically laser mice have acceleration that you can't turn off even if you set it to zero in the options, right?
I tried the Mamba 4G last year. The liftoff thing didn't work, no matter how I set it in the options liftoff was same. I tried Naos also, sensor performance was odd, then I grabbed my Deathadder (which at that time I didn't use for a year) and it felt like a boost, so damned accurate. DA went where I wanted it, Naos performed so random and unprecise. Mamba 4G was playable though.
Still I'm confused.

Laser mice using Avago Laserstream 9500 (and 9800) so far have slight acceleration. Not all laser mice have acceleration.
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I really love the shape (hence my avatar), but I'm curious how well the dual sensor will really hold up. If it does well, then it could truly be Razers go-to mouse.
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Not having high hopes for it since it's a bug in the sensor, but if somehow, due to some miracle Razer fixed the acceleration and to top it off it has no Z-Axis problems... insta buy incoming biggrin.gif
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