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Poll Results: Which is better

Poll expired: Dec 5, 2006  
  • 13% (10)
    X2 4400+
  • 10% (8)
    X2 4400+ 89W
  • 8% (6)
    X2 4800+
  • 50% (38)
    Opteron 165
  • 17% (13)
    Opteron 170
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post #31 of 49
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Originally Posted by NuclearCrap
But now, I'm choosing between the Opteron 180 and X2 4800+, both run on 2.4Ghz and has 12x multiplier, but one must be better than the other in overclocking.

All things being equal, the Opteron will be the better overclocker. This is due to the fact that they use higher quality silicon wafer and the Opterons are designed for 24 hour uptime server / workstation use. Quality control and everything else is pretty much better all around. So if you have a Athlon 64 X2 and Opteron with identcal specs, I'd bet on the Opteron being more stable at high clocks.
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post #32 of 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by indignation
All things being equal, the Opteron will be the better overclocker. This is due to the fact that they use higher quality silicon wafer and the Opterons are designed for 24 hour uptime server / workstation use. Quality control and everything else is pretty much better all around. So if you have a Athlon 64 X2 and Opteron with identcal specs, I'd bet on the Opteron being more stable at high clocks.
Yes thats a fact with the Opteron architecture.
post #33 of 49
165 all the way baby!
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post #34 of 49
I read somewhere that the Opteron 170 doesn't usually overclock as well as the 165. But then again, it all depends on how high your motherboard lets you take your FSB. Have you already found out what your maximum FSB is? If you can get it way up there, there's really no reason to get a more expensive Opteron just for the high multipliers.
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post #35 of 49
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Originally Posted by indignation
I read somewhere that the Opteron 170 doesn't usually overclock as well as the 165. But then again, it all depends on how high your motherboard lets you take your FSB. Have you already found out what your maximum FSB is? If you can get it way up there, there's really no reason to get a more expensive Opteron just for the high multipliers.
Well my memory allows only 250 FSB stable on every multiplier setting on my 3500+, so I had to make use of the 11x and got 2750Mhz. Maybe it's the Venice core that's limiting but who knows.

This time though, I really wanna be sure that I can get past 2.8Ghz stable, so a 12x multipler would be nice, hopefully a 250x12=3Ghz this time. It's the 180 I'm gonna get, by the way.

Reps for all who helped out.

I'm gonna kill at least a stock E6700 Conroe.
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post #36 of 49
I assume you know about memory dividers.. right?

Im running at 300 FSB right now and I haven't pushed my memory at all yet because I'm using a 2/3 divider.
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post #37 of 49
Glad i could have helped

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I'm gonna kill at least a stock E6700 Conroe
You would be lucky mate.
post #38 of 49
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You would be lucky mate.
Well that would only be approximately 3Ghz.
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post #39 of 49
My vote goes to the Opty 170! In my eyes its worth it cause you don´t need a large divider for running 3GHz! You only need a set of DDR600 rams!
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post #40 of 49
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Originally Posted by indignation
All things being equal, the Opteron will be the better overclocker. This is due to the fact that they use higher quality silicon wafer and the Opterons are designed for 24 hour uptime server / workstation use. Quality control and everything else is pretty much better all around. So if you have a Athlon 64 X2 and Opteron with identcal specs, I'd bet on the Opteron being more stable at high clocks.
Everyone says that, and I'm pretty sure they're wrong. They use the same silicon as with the Athlon series. A much more likely difference is that Opterons have more relaxed latencies on the memory controller, making them slightly more stable, but also slightly slower, at a given clockspeed.
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