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Nice job on that 3.0 cable. Looks gooooooood! thumb.gif

Thanks Stevo!


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New look is definitely an improvement, good eye for detail.

Appreciate it Defunctronin!


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I'd sell a body part for this thing... thumb.gif

That's ok. Keep it. But thanks anyway!


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This build has my mouth & eyes wide open in awe. Simply amazing build & great work! Subbed biggrin.gif

Another first time poster. Love it! Welcome to OCN michigantoga!
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Ding dong. Oh. Wonder who that it is? Better go check. Well...its my friendly FedEx dude, who now greets me by first name since we've seen each other so many times this last summer.

Me: What do you have for me today?
FedEx dude: This one is from Germany.
Me: Ah. I think I know what it is then. Mips.
FedEx dude: Mips? What is that? What are you getting from Germany?
Me: Its more computer stuff. They make good stuff.
FedEx dude: If you say so.
Me: Do you need a signature?
FedEx dude: Yep.
Me: Ok. See you soon.
FedEx dude: Yeah, my guess is you probably will.



Box....in fair shape. Clearly a re-used box...but no damage...





Inside...each block was packaged separately with bubble wrap and envelopes. Well done.





Group shots....






Here are some closer individual shots of each block...but I do promise to take these up to the faux studio and take some better pics. I still owe you guys pics of the 690 blocks also...so I'll do some better shots of the entire group of water blocks. But for now...here are some quick ones of:

Copper plated IceForce (this one was a custom request)





Asrock Extreme11 Chipset block





4 Dimm Ram Block





VRM Block





Super pleased with how these blocks look. Will post the better pics sometime tomorrow most likely. I won't get around to installing my loop until next weekend I'm afraid. I should be getting my 2nd Corsair 32GB memory kit replacement sometime next week, and then I want to run a series of benchmarks and temperatures with everything at stock settings and air cooling, before getting the loop in place. Then I'll repeat the benchrmarks and temperatures.

More later...
post #2253 of 3982
Look EXTREMELY nice.
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Tonight I took another crack at sleeving a USB 3.0 double cable. When I originally sleeved my USB 3.0 card reader, I ended up having to use some very large sleeve to get over the enormous motherboard 20pin connector on one end. Picture of what it ended up looking like below. This was my old approach:

While it definitely looked better than leaving the cables black (at least for my build), I really didn't like how much slack is inside the sleeve. You can see how poofy it is all around. You simply can't pull it very tight at all when the sleeve is this much larger than the wires inside it. I was set on trying to improve this. For anyone who has tried sleeving USB 3.0 double cables...I know you feel my pain. The biggest issue is that most of these cables have a gigantic motherboard header on one end....like this:

...and an end that is not accessible on the other end.....like this:

So....for my first attempts, I decided I would see what size sleeve I could actually fit over the 20 pin motherboard connector...without trying to remove it. I was hoping to find something smaller that would still fit over the connector. Since I had plenty of MDPC-X on hand, I tried that first. There is no way you are going to be able to slide either the SATA sleeve or the USB sleeve (available only in black I believe) over that connector. I tried every which was possible. So next...I decided to try several brands of sleeve and see if any of them had more expandability than the MDPC-X I've been working with.
I bought sleeve from Bitspower, Mod/Smart, Techflex, Flexo Pet, and FTW. And I bought it in all the different sizes they make that were larger. I can tell you that none of the sleeving from any company that was sized 3/8 Inch or smaller would go over the connector. Not even close. When I stepped up to 1/2 inch sleeve...there was one brand of sleeving that would expand enough to make it over the 20 pin connector. You've probably guessed based on prior posts....but it was the Flexo Pet. Flexo Pet just expands WAY more than the other company's sleeve. But the big negative is that it does not provide good coverage of the cable underneath...so using the correct color wire...or wrapping in electrical tape first...is required when using this sleeving. The next step up in size for most manufacturers was 3/4 inch sleeve...and this size would generally fit over the 20 pin connector.....but it sure left a lot of empty space inside the sleeve. It was too big to pull tight.
The 1/2 inch Flexo Pet looked better than my original attempt. But even the 1/2 inch Flexo Pet that would just barely fit over the connector...left too much space inside the sleeve for my taste.
So....my next attempt was to remove the connector and/or remove the pins. Lots of epic fails during this part, and I destroyed several USB cables. I was at least smart enough to attempt this on cheap extra cables I had bought, and not anything that was important and attached to a card reader. Kind of like most of the SATA cables I tore down...there is a lot of waxy substance that seals the wires coming out of the cables and into the connectors. It is impossible to try and remove the wires from this waxy mold.
After I had destroyed enough cables trying to free the wires from the connectors, I decided to try and different approach, and just slice off as much of the black plastic connector as I could...to make it thinner. To try this....I heated up an exacto knife on my gas stove top until the blade was nice and hot. Real hot. Blade glowing orange hot. If you try this...hold the handle with something padded, because the whole knife gets real hot.

With the knife this hot....it melted through the black plastic like butter. And I found that if I stayed close to the edges of where the black plastic molding touched the waxy molding inside....I could end up tearing the black plastic molding off completely. Here is a picture of the molding torn off of the cable.

Here is what the waxy end looks like underneath the black plastic molding. You can see that the waxy mold is still completely intact, so it is still there to provide strength and support for the tiny solder connections. Nothing lost by removing the black plastic molding.


And by removing the outer black plastic molding, the size of the connector does get smaller...and not by an insubstantial amount. Here are some pictures comparing an untouched USB 3.0 connector with my modded one:


And by removing the extra size that the black plastic molding added....I found that I could now slip a 3/8 inch Flexo Pet sleeve over the connector. Smaller sleeve...should mean better fit around the cables. The 3/8 inch sleeve actually fit real snug around the cables. Left none of the poofy slack that I was trying to eliminate. Nice. So I went ahead and taped the black cables with white electrical tape:

Snugged the sleeve over the 20 pin connector and down the cable....

Put some one inch heatshrink on this end....

...and then this end....

....for a finished cable.

Here is a picture of my old approach (on the left)....and my new approach (on the right).

Much more attractive. But the only way to get this result when you are having to go over a 20 pin connector...is to slim down the connector with your heated up knife....and use some Flexo Pet sleeving which expands WAY more than other sleeve does.
Guess I'm going to have to redo that card reader sleeve also. This looks much better.
Now...I'm off to bed...but I'm going to turn on some Marvin Gaye softly in the background to see if it stimulates any 24 pin action. Update tomorrow.
2nd attempt looks much better!

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Ding dong. Oh. Wonder who that it is? Better go check. Well...its my friendly FedEx dude, who now greets me by first name since we've seen each other so many times this last summer.
Me: What do you have for me today?
FedEx dude: This one is from Germany.
Me: Ah. I think I know what it is then. Mips.
FedEx dude: Mips? What is that? What are you getting from Germany?
Me: Its more computer stuff. They make good stuff.
FedEx dude: If you say so.
Me: Do you need a signature?
FedEx dude: Yep.
Me: Ok. See you soon.
FedEx dude: Yeah, my guess is you probably will.
Box....in fair shape. Clearly a re-used box...but no damage... Warning: Blocks! (Click to show)

Inside...each block was packaged separately with bubble wrap and envelopes. Well done.

Group shots....


Here are some closer individual shots of each block...but I do promise to take these up to the faux studio and take some better pics. I still owe you guys pics of the 690 blocks also...so I'll do some better shots of the entire group of water blocks. But for now...here are some quick ones of:
Copper plated IceForce (this one was a custom request)

Asrock Extreme11 Chipset block

4 Dimm Ram Block

VRM Block
Super pleased with how these blocks look. Will post the better pics sometime tomorrow most likely. I won't get around to installing my loop until next weekend I'm afraid. I should be getting my 2nd Corsair 32GB memory kit replacement sometime next week, and then I want to run a series of benchmarks and temperatures with everything at stock settings and air cooling, before getting the loop in place. Then I'll repeat the benchrmarks and temperatures.
More later...

Blocks! drool.gif
post #2255 of 3982
Wow Chris things are really starting to move along!! The detail work is amazing! Very nice job on the usb 3.0 cables. Your innovations are going to end up in soooo many builds on this site!!!! biggrin.gif
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Weren't you using Nateman Doo for some of these blocks?
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Wow Chris things are really starting to move along!! The detail work is amazing! Very nice job on the usb 3.0 cables. Your innovations are going to end up in soooo many builds on this site!!!! biggrin.gif

Thanks Harvman! Still having fun.


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Weren't you using Nateman Doo for some of these blocks?

Yes...I've got one of Nate's blocks ordered. And I'm still excited about it....but don't really have any sort of timetable for those. Didn't want to keep waiting. So...I got this Mips block, which matches all the other blocks perfectly...and I'll test this one vs. Nate's when his are done. Winner stays in the BBBB. Second place goes into next build. This also lets me move forward while waiting on Nate. I've tried to get him to throw out even a tentative date range...and he just doesn't feel comfortable doing that.
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Busy with kids this afternoon/evening...but here is what I got done while they were at school today. I tackled the front panel audio connector. It's the black one in the middle of the two USB 3.0 I sleeved yesterday.





I was in kind of the same boat as I was when I was trying to figure out what to do with the two USB connectors for the Aquaero's. The standard front panel audio cable that comes with the Caselabs case....is barely long enough to reach the HD Audio pins on the AE11 motherboard. And its not even close to being long enough to reach the right spot if I run it in a manner that hides it from sight for most of the run. So...I needed to make it longer. But kind of like with the USB cables....there is extra shielding that is standard with these cables...so I didn't want to just make my own. So what I did was buy an extender....but then I did something similar to what I did for the USB cables. I didn't want the big black ugly connectors in the middle of my cable....so I removed both connectors and just clipped the pins together without using the connectors. I added some real small heatshrink on each individual wire to hold the pins in place and provide some shielding.





I taped it for strength. Started out taping this one red....because I was going to use some of my crimson sleeve on it. But I changed my mind and ended up taping it all white, so it would closely match the other USB double cables.





Since I had just done something similar....this one went pretty quick. I used SATA sleeve from MDPC-X for the sleeving, and some of the regular SATA size heatshrink also. If you zoom in on the picture below....you will see the difference in the MDPC-X sleeve (middle) and the Flexo Pet (both sides). MDPC-X has much tighter weave and provides more coverage. The quality of the braid also appears to be much better. MDPC-X is just better sleeving. But as discussed a few posts ago....I couldn't use it for the USB 3.0 cables due to the size of the 20pin connector.





And here is a picture of the whole cable. The HD audio cable is LONG......but it needs to be to reach the back of the AE11 motherboard, going along the route I want it to go.





Will be tackling the front panel Power/Reset/HDD/LED wires tomorrow. I think I can roll my own for these. The ones that come with the case are much too short for my desired route...so I need longer ones.
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The USB 3.0 and audio cables turned out really well, but your tenacity in searching for a solution is downright amazing.thumb.gif Love the water blocks, look forward to seeing them in place.
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Hmmm leather and sleeve, you know what I like !
Unfortunately, no place to release my "excitement" in the college library, and no decent damsels to be found nearby to help me either... thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

PS: Amazing patience you (and your wife) have. I'm pretty sure I couldn't spend so long on one build without going bonkers, but the result will be more than worth it I'm sure. Keep up the good work. I have been following this thread for a while now (still having sweet dreams about those fan colour combinations )

EDIT: Damn it Chrome, colour is with "ou" ... stop correcting me.
EDIT2: OMG, I just realized the ATM machine in the library makes the same sound as those suit-recharging stations in Half - Life specool.gif
Edited by Bloitz - 10/25/12 at 11:37pm
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