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a) 64GB (8x8) running at 1,600Mhz and 8-8-8-24 timings, and 1.5 volts
b) 32GB (8x4) running at 1,866Mhz and 9-10-9-27 timings, and 1.5 volts
c) 32GB (8x4) running at 2,133Mhz and 10-11-10-30 timings and 1.57 volts
Questions for you:
1) Which of the 3 scenarios above would you choose and why?

I don't feel qualified to respond to any of the other questions, but I personally wouldn't hesitate with option A. I can't justify 32gb of higher speed with looser timings (and higher voltages) over a doubly-large RAM setup with tighter timings. Definitely option A if you want to mess around with a RAMdisk.
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I don't feel qualified to respond to any of the other questions, but I personally wouldn't hesitate with option A. I can't justify 32gb of higher speed with looser timings (and higher voltages) over a doubly-large RAM setup with tighter timings. Definitely option A if you want to mess around with a RAMdisk.

I've researched a little on using a RAMdisk, but have never done one. Have you ever tried it? Did you use it to actually install certain programs...or just for scratch space?
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Right now, I could choose between the following setups that have proved stable:
a) 64GB (8x8) running at 1,600Mhz and 8-8-8-24 timings, and 1.5 volts
b) 32GB (8x4) running at 1,866Mhz and 9-10-9-27 timings, and 1.5 volts
c) 32GB (8x4) running at 2,133Mhz and 10-11-10-30 timings and 1.57 volts
Questions for you:
1) Which of the 3 scenarios above would you choose and why?
2) Any suggestions for trying to reach 1,866Mhz with all 8 sticks installed?
3) Will any of the setups unduly hinder my future CPU overclock goals?
4) How bad is it to run 1.5 volt memory at 1.57 if you keep it up 24/7?
5) Max DRAM voltage I should consider safe for a 24/7 box?
Thanks in advance!

Right off the bat, I would rule out option b). Depending on wether you want to play around with a RAMdisk or not, I would go with option a) for RAMdisk and option c) for not (unless proven that your media work will gobble up over 32BG by itself in which case only a) remains)

As for your questions on safe voltage and CPU overclock: I don't have any of your hardware and do not know the intricate relations of your IMC and CPU multis/clock/strap nor the best voltages for prolonged operation.

I am very interested in the answer you get: I sold a similar setup to a client at work, but I can't get involved much right now because of schedule issues and other things.
post #2354 of 3982
Option C unless you're running a ram disk there's no need for it. As you have a butt load of SSDs then I wouldn't bother with a ramdisk.

1.57 is hardly extreme. Most of us were running 1.65 on gulftown for years with no problems.
     
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Far from a memory expert, but fast ram gets fast benchmarks. Other than that I don't see much real world benefit. I'm with stren on the voltage though, 1.57 isn't going to kill it.
64GB, I don't know what you'll be doing but could be handy if you run a DAW or something latency dependent I guess.
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....I personally wouldn't hesitate with option A. I can't justify 32gb of higher speed with looser timings (and higher voltages) over a doubly-large RAM setup with tighter timings. Definitely option A if you want to mess around with a RAMdisk.
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Right off the bat, I would rule out option b). Depending on wether you want to play around with a RAMdisk or not, I would go with option a) for RAMdisk and option c) for not (unless proven that your media work will gobble up over 32BG by itself in which case only a) remains)
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Option C unless you're running a ram disk there's no need for it. As you have a butt load of SSDs then I wouldn't bother with a ramdisk.
1.57 is hardly extreme. Most of us were running 1.65 on gulftown for years with no problems.
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Far from a memory expert, but fast ram gets fast benchmarks. Other than that I don't see much real world benefit. I'm with stren on the voltage though, 1.57 isn't going to kill it.
64GB, I don't know what you'll be doing but could be handy if you run a DAW or something latency dependent I guess.


I guess I won't know for sure my memory needs until I get more. Right now, I have 12gb in my X58 box....and I routinely use up all of it when I'm working with video editing and rendering. So I know I can use more....just don't know how much more.
post #2357 of 3982
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I guess I won't know for sure my memory needs until I get more. Right now, I have 12gb in my X58 box....and I routinely use up all of it when I'm working with video editing and rendering. So I know I can use more....just don't know how much more.

You could start with 64GB, see how much memory you use. Once you know: if it close to 32GB you canmake the choice between faster RAM or the RAMdrive. Based solely on documentation for the RAMdrive, it can make the best scratch drive and save some write cycles on your SSD array. You could also compare it to running 32GB at 2133MHz with your SSDs as scratch drive and decide which works best for you.
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You could start with 64GB, see how much memory you use. Once you know: if it close to 32GB you canmake the choice between faster RAM or the RAMdrive. Based solely on documentation for the RAMdrive, it can make the best scratch drive and save some write cycles on your SSD array. You could also compare it to running 32GB at 2133MHz with your SSDs as scratch drive and decide which works best for you.

This.

Also, to answer your question, yeah -- I tried a RAMdisk once on a workstation I borrowed from a friend. It was stupidly fast but not worth the hassle in my opinion. Especially for you, since you'll have multiple SSD's in RAID configurations, a RAMdisk isn't a particularly attractive option. Definitely benchmark your three options, though, to see which benefits you most.
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Go for option A but increase the voltage to 1.65-1.7v to fully unleash the potential of those dimms. Anything under 1.6v is weaksauce if you're serious about pushing ram speeds with high densities.
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Won't Sandy-bridge take damage for using more than 1,65v on mem after a while?
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