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http://www.overclock.net/t/1294597/intel-enables-trim-combined-with-raid-0-on-ssds
Shush you redface.gif
Why would someonebuy seven rads, around fifty fans (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaKcESbTx2w would be great for you thumb.gif)
Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=GSllkFWVhJI&feature=fvwp but without the baffle box (hope I spelled it right)
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Intel 7 series chipsets that support RAID, except for X79

X79 i forgot X79
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Ok. I'm going to play devil's advocate with you and press you for some more info. biggrin.gif I can't think of much I could do without having to drain the loop anyway.
Yes...the QDC's would make it easier to remove the motherboard tray....if you use one for every line coming in or out of the motherboard. That would be either 3 or 4 for me (still working on layout). But lets say I've setup the QDC's and can quickly remove the motherboard tray without draining any of the loop. Once I have it out...seems like I would still have to drain water before I could do anything with it? Right? I can't even swap out memory sticks (because of the blocks) without getting water everywhere. On project thief....do you end up draining the water out of all the board blocks after you've removed the motherboard tray? Or do you drain the system while the tray is still inside the build....just to where it's below the motherboard level...and then pull it out?
I guess I can see where they might be useful on the radiators...but with 7 rads...I would need 14 flow destroying QDC's.
I want to see the benefit of these....but I'm just not there.
I may end up using some d-plugs so that I can quickly remove the motherboard tray from the build without having to disassemble anything. But I would still have to drain it at least down below the motherboard for this to be useful. I need to think through where I want my fill port to ensure that filling it backup is painless.

A thick, meabe ?

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Intel 7 series chipsets that support RAID, except for X79
X79 i forgot X79

Asrock and Gigabyte's X79 boards have the new RSTe driver and BIOS updates that support TRIM in RAID 0 for SSDs on X79.

Asus has no official ones, but Nodens on the ROG forums has modded BIOSes for most, if not all, Asus X79 boards here. thumb.gif
 
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Back to the "drain thang",
I have mine setup now with a valve to drain the water blocks and reservoir, and another to drain the radiators or "everything" in my case. I don't see having all the QDC's you would need in your rig.
A few valves, and D plugs could be nice as well just for the sake of quicker disassembly.

But you guys with bigger rigs and mucho pumping power can take a few more liberties with flow-reducing fittings as well, even though I personally don't like QDC's.

With all the "hard 90's" you have I'm curious to see flow rates from different points in the rig. But that will depend on what kind of loops you end up with I guess.
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Ok. I'm going to play devil's advocate with you and press you for some more info. biggrin.gif I can't think of much I could do without having to drain the loop anyway.
Yes...the QDC's would make it easier to remove the motherboard tray....if you use one for every line coming in or out of the motherboard. That would be either 3 or 4 for me (still working on layout). But lets say I've setup the QDC's and can quickly remove the motherboard tray without draining any of the loop. Once I have it out...seems like I would still have to drain water before I could do anything with it? Right? I can't even swap out memory sticks (because of the blocks) without getting water everywhere. On project thief....do you end up draining the water out of all the board blocks after you've removed the motherboard tray? Or do you drain the system while the tray is still inside the build....just to where it's below the motherboard level...and then pull it out?
I guess I can see where they might be useful on the radiators...but with 7 rads...I would need 14 flow destroying QDC's.
I want to see the benefit of these....but I'm just not there.
I may end up using some d-plugs so that I can quickly remove the motherboard tray from the build without having to disassemble anything. But I would still have to drain it at least down below the motherboard for this to be useful. I need to think through where I want my fill port to ensure that filling it backup is painless.

Yeah I hear you - it would be a major redesign for you to take advantage of them fully as I think your current loop is just too hectic to take advantage of them. And for 14 of them you'd need to use the VL4N's as they are half the restriction of the VL3Ns. However they are *way* bigger and come in much less useful options. And if you ever drop one from 3ft it will dent and be unusable. Personally I would include a couple at least for easily removing the pedestal and maybe a few other things. It's just going to be such a nightmare to change anything and I dread to think how you'll drain that complicated a loop setup! This is why I'm planning to move to individual loops for each component. With this many rads you can give each loop 1-2 decent radiators and the temps won't be affected much, the flow might even be higher and it's so much easier to maintain. The downside is that the motherboard can look messy with so many loops coming in and out!
     
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I have to say I could warm to the fittings / links if they were in a straight orientation, will be interested to see what that looks like!

Playing devil's advocate though, here's a pic I found here of some tight tubing - a similar thing might look good in BBBB...?!
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post #2817 of 3982
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Still playing with loop layout....

Here is my revised attempt. Using more straight lines....running the memory blocks in parallel. There are 2 connections into the motherboard (for the 2 subloops) and 2 connections out. All 4 of these are using d-plugs...so the motherboard will be easy to remove....but does have to be drained first.

The real magic with this layout would happen behind the motherboard. Using a series of valves...I could control how much of the initial flow goes to the CPU subloop or the GPU subloop. Also...the CPU subloop has an exit valve that could direct the flow into the GPU subloop or the reservoir. Essentially...just by changing the valves...it could become a completely serial loop....or the two subloops could be utilized with varying amounts of flow being directed to either. It's an Electrocutor concept...I'm just trying to make it work aesthetically.

I'm out of white crystal link fittings and d-plugs....so I've got some silver thrown in there right now. That will disappear for the final layout.

What do you think about this one? I like not having plumbing cross over the top of the video cards into the CPU section. I've played around with using just compression fittings and tubing...and my 3/4 OD tubing just doesn't make tight turns like I would have in my loop. And since I now own 40 1/2 ID x 3/4 OD compression fittings...not sure I want to start over there. smile.gif




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Still think you should use white compression fittings and crimson tube.... thumb.gifthumb.gifthumb.gif

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Still think you should use white compression fittings and crimson tube.... thumb.gifthumb.gifthumb.gif
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Better but ^^

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