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spent multiple days looking through this build all i have to say is DANG.
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spent multiple days looking through this build all i have to say is DANG.


Oh yes, I am glad I started following this build early.

    
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I got in on page 44 thumb.gif
Glad to see it's moving along again, thought this means the moment of cold turkey is inevitably coming closer...
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She's alive! Temps look sweet! Can't wait to see your data dumps. thumb.gif
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Hi cpachris-

Glad to see your up and running. I got my board under water and it is working well. Love your "water lines" -- great design with all the valves and option routing!!!

I decided to put 2x 5-way manifolds and in/out water for 3 sub loops - CPU, GPUs and MOBO blocks - a lot of tubing but still managing to get 1.1g/min with 2x D5 running in series at 60%.

I am getting my AQ AE5 Pro replaced as I had some problems. That is on its way from Germany - Awesome service from Sven! My hats off. But I digress.

1. Leaks- I had put in-line sensors from Phobya and they both leaked under full pump force. So had to drain the loop and remove the sensors. I am curious, how do you like tin the inlines from AQ are they made by AQ or are they re-branded Phobya?

2. My CPU and GPU temps are stable 37C and 2x GTX580 at 33C and 32C - at idle. Do these look reasonable to you? I have not started load testing yet. Waiting for my replacement AQ5 to arrive.

3. Considering moving to 1/2" tubing from pumps to loop input and loop output to Rad1>Rad2. Do you see this making a difference in flow rates or most importantly temps?

Lovely build! Love all the copper in the build. I am house hunting and new home does not have as much copper as your build! smile.gif
Edited by Audiophile20 - 4/4/13 at 11:04am
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Originally Posted by Wibble360 View Post

Yay! Well done for getting her fired up, looking forward to sitting down with a mug of coffee and looking through all the stats!

Yeah....overclocking and stats will be a fun portion of this build. I can't wait myself.


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Annnddd, I've finally caught up on this log of yours. It only took an entire sick day in bed!

So question: You've got XT and LT mounted 1 space apart on the front panel. I found it's necessary for the same exact reasons though since the LT is mounted behind a one-spacer front plate, it's just ever so slightly at a different depth from the XT on top. When I attempt to plumb, there's a short gap. A connection could be made though not without bending both PCBs. How'd you go about solving this riddle?

I know what you mean about how long it takes to get caught up. I took a couple months off from the forums and I'm still not completely caught back up on all the build logs I'm following. Plus...there are lots of new ones I want to get into also. Totally into yours, by the way. Keep it up.

I had to play around with spacing a lot to get it to work. You can't use the same pieces on both sides of the connection and get it to work. Plus...the smallest extension is something like 5mm...which is MORE than you need to even things out. So...I ended up lucking into the following little trick just by playing around with it. On the Bitspower triple rotary 90 degree fittings....one end of the fitting has a rotary end that is slightly longer than the other rotary end. Use this to your advantage. For the two 90 degree turns...face one fitting with the fat rotary end facing the AQ5 pcb...and the other 90 degree fitting with the small rotary end facing the other AQ5. That gives you a little bit of differential to play with. Combine that with some extensions that are different sizes...and you can dial in the exact distance you need to make it work. Next time I'm taking some close-ups, I'll try and get a shot of the fittings between the two AQ5's so you can see what I did.


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Originally Posted by linkdiablo View Post

Since no one made the comment: your monitor looks puny next to the BBBB tongue.gif P.S. I love your build and you hou look into watercooling your radiators ... 50+ fans ... do you have a pond outside to do swampcooling? rolleyes.gif

Yeah...that's a small extra monitor I use when working on new builds. My main rig has a 27 inch...but I think I'll upgrade to a 30 inch when I'm done with the BBBB. I'm not really into multi-monitor gaming at all, so I just want one large display, and then I'm playing with the idea of a wacom tablet display as a secondary monitor. No swamps in Edmond, OK!


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Originally Posted by Fololight View Post

spent multiple days looking through this build all i have to say is DANG.
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Originally Posted by TheBadBull View Post

Oh yes, I am glad I started following this build early.
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Originally Posted by Whatts View Post

I got in on page 44 thumb.gif Glad to see it's moving along again, thought this means the moment of cold turkey is inevitably coming closer...

Fololight...you're a man of few words. But thanks. I've still got some final wiring to do..and then lighting. But...there are always upgrades and new stats to do. But as soon as this one is 95% done and has become my primary day-to-day rig...I'm going to build my fiancee a smaller more modest computer. Still nice components...but probably only 1 graphics card and 1 or 2 radiators. Something pretty and girly. She'll like it.


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Originally Posted by TPE-331 View Post

She's alive! Temps look sweet! Can't wait to see your data dumps. thumb.gif

Thank you sir. I'm going to have fun with that part also.


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Originally Posted by Audiophile20 View Post

Hi cpachris-

Glad to see your up and running. I got my board under water and it is working well. Love your "water lines" -- great design with all the valves and option routing!!! I decided to put 2x 5-way manifolds and in/out water for 3 sub loops - CPU, GPUs and MOBO blocks - a lot of tubing but still managing to get 1.1g/min with 2x D5 running in series at 60%. I am getting my AQ AE5 Pro replaced as I had some problems. That is on its way from Germany - Awesome service from Sven! My hats off. But I digress.

1. Leaks- I had put in-line sensors from Phobya and they both leaked under full pump force. So had to drain the loop and remove the sensors. I am curious, how do you like tin the inlines from AQ are they made by AQ or are they re-branded Phobya?

2. My CPU and GPU temps are stable 37C and 2x GTX580 at 33C and 32C - at idle. Do these look reasonable to you? I have not started load testing yet. Waiting for my replacement AQ5 to arrive.

3. Considering moving to 1/2" tubing from pumps to loop input and loop output to Rad1>Rad2. Do you see this making a difference in flow rates or most importantly temps?

Lovely build! Love all the copper in the build. I am house hunting and new home do not have as much copper as your build! smile.gif

That's good flow! I think you'll be happy with the temp results.

1. I'm using the AquaComputer in-line sensors...but I don't really know if they are rebranding them from Phobya. After I replaced a missing o-ring, I've had no leaks on the 3x of them in my build. I wish I could get them in white though. The black and silver throws off my mojo.

2. Those are acceptable temps at idle. Mine is idling closer to 30C for the CPU and 27 for the GPU.

3. Not sure how much impact that would have on flow...but I would guess it would be minimal. I still have lots of testing to do, but so far it doesn't look like flow rate is having much impact on my component temps at all. Minimal at best. But...that may be simply because I have SOOOOOOO much radiator space. I would think flow would be more important in a smaller loop than mine, so that it ran back through the radiator as often as possible.
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As to flow vs rad space, I would totally agree! I only have 2x 140.3 rads at this time. Last week I noticed CaseLabs is making a new top for M10 - AQ Copper 120mm. This is making me think that I need to get 2x 120,3 for the top of the case!! This will increase my rad space and maybe help me knock a couple degrees off :-)

Given your sensor experience from AQ, I will order a few and add them to the rig once I move to a house. That will work well smile.gif

Good to see you are well! As always your rig looks awesome thumb.gif .. compared to yours mine is all back and wires smile.gif
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Picture update of progress! One of the wiring jobs I still needed to complete was some long power cable extensions from the pedestal plugs, up to the PA2 strips. If you will recall, I had previously drilled some holes in the pedestal ceiling frame and wired up all 24 fans and 2 pumps into 7 different terminating connections with normal 3-pin fan headers on them. I then made a small cut-out in the floor of the main case, so that when it sits on top of the pedestal, the 3-pin fan headers are exposed. Like this:





To connect the 3-pin headers to the PA2 strips, which are at the top of the main case on both sides of the case, I needed some long power cable extensions. I chose white connectors, 22 gauge wire, and some of my crimson colored sleeving.





The cables have a normal female connector on one end, and a hooded male connector on the other:







The hooded male end plugs into the exposed pedestal connections.





The cables run up the case, behind the PSU's, to the top cutout between the motherboard side of the case and the PSU side of the case.





From this cutout...some cables run along the PA2 strip on the PSU side, and some go through the cutout and run along the PA2 strip on the motherboard side. There are 6 PA2's on each side of the case. The wire stays tucked behind the custom mounting strip, and gets pulled over the strip to plug into the PA2 once it reaches the PA2.






So now I have all ( or most...I'm still deciding if I want fans on 360 rad on PSU side) radiator fans spinning. I want to redo some water/air delta temp testing again to see if there is any impact. Although the detla was pretty low already last time. And that was without fans spinning on the 2x bottom 480's and the 1x bottom 280 rads. Delta should stay pretty low with all these fans spinning now.

Now that I have 3x flow meters and 3 temp sensors plugged into the places I want them...the PSU side of the case is looking a little messy. Will need to sleeve these and adjust length as necessary. I may wait until I finish my flow rate testing using all the different valves. If I find a solution that is optimal...I may move away from the valve setup and into something a little cleaner looking on the PSU side...and that would change the location of the flow meters and temp sensors anyway. I'll keep it on my list.





Parting shot with all the panels in place.





More soon!
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Awesome rig, Chris thumb.gif

How many more steps are needed until she can be used for gaming and everyday stress?
Also, I noticed in the index a conspicuously placed "BBBB version 2.0?"... Will this actually be considered??
     
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Awesome rig, Chris thumb.gif

How many more steps are needed until she can be used for gaming and everyday stress?
Also, I noticed in the index a conspicuously placed "BBBB version 2.0?"... Will this actually be considered??


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