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As a point of interest, I work for a manufacturer of hvac coils. We provide a painted coil using a liquid electrodeposition tech similar to http://www.metokote.com/coatingTechnologies/ecoatProcessSpecifics.asp .
It allows for a much thinner coat than powder. The powder can often be thick which is an efficiency killer, acting as insulation between the fin and the airflow. Did your powder coater specify a thickness?
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Originally Posted by engmitch View Post

As a point of interest, I work for a manufacturer of hvac coils. We provide a painted coil using a liquid electrodeposition tech similar to http://www.metokote.com/coatingTechnologies/ecoatProcessSpecifics.asp .
It allows for a much thinner coat than powder. The powder can often be thick which is an efficiency killer, acting as insulation between the fin and the airflow. Did your powder coater specify a thickness?

No. But...I asked him to keep it light on the fins, and if you look toward the inside of them, you can actually still see the copper on the fins that re closer to the middle. Not much powder on the fins. If temps are unacceptable once hooked up, I could always sandblast again and then protect the fins when applying powder. But I really don't think it will be a problem.
post #713 of 3982
Too late to rework your color scheme to have copper be one of the primary colors?
post #714 of 3982
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Too late to rework your color scheme to have copper be one of the primary colors?

At this point I'm waiting on getting some of the AMS copper fin rads (which AquaTuning says will ship this week!), to see how much I like the look of copper inside the build. I think I'll like it, but want to see this rad first to check it out first hand. It won't be a primary color, but if I like it I'll use copper accents in a lot of places. Found a place online that will copper plate screws for cheap, so I might see what that looks like also.
post #715 of 3982
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Originally Posted by Wahoomcdaniel View Post

Actually., I wasn't meaning to comment just on fan direction.
I don't have specific articles bookmarked that I can point you to.
But I recall watercooling discussions in the past that identified air turbulence from push/pull setups on a rad as decreasing efficiency.

That actually makes no sense. For fluids the most efficient means of transport is turbulent flow. There will be far less friction with the fins of the radiator with turbulent flow vs. laminar flow.
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Ok, I've got some pretty interesting news....especially if any one else is doing raid or planning raid arrays. I'm going to put it out there for you the same way it happend for me. The dialog below is a summary of an email conversation I started a few days ago.

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Me to support@areca.com.tw

I've been holding off making a purchase of a raid card in hopes of a PCI 3.0 version. Can you tell me if you have one planned, and if so, tentative timing?

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support@areca.com.tw to Me

Dear Sir/Madam,

we do have Gen3 raid card plan, but no confirmed release schedule yet. sorry for the inconvenience.


Best Regards,
Kevin Wang

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Me to Kevin

Thanks. Can you at least tell me if you think its a 2012 release...or are we talking about something in 2013?


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Kevin to Me

Dear Sir/Madam,

i am sorry, i did not been told anything about the schedule.

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Well, that was kind of what I expected to hear. And I do these types of emails to companies all the time, because you never know when you are going to get a loose lipped support rep that is new on the job, and he may give you an interesting tid-bit that you really shouldn't know. Anyway, after the exchange above, I guess the support rep (Kevin) passed the email on to someone in sales. I got copied on the message when the guy from sales (Joseph Chen) forwarded my original message to someone named Wayne Kou at Tekram. I'm not 100% sure of the relationship between Tekram and Areca, but I think Tekram is kind of a US sales and support team for Areca. If someone has additional information....chime in. Anyway, here is the exchange that followed after Wayne received my message from Joseph:

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Wayne to Me/Joseph

Dear Chris,


Thanks for the mail.

May I know how may ports (HDDs) of PCI 3.0 raid card do you need? I will check the right one for you.

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Me to Wayne/Joseph

Thanks for the reply. I will only have 8 drives hooked up to it to begin with, but was planning on either a 12 or 16 port so that I have room for expansion.


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Wayne to Me/Joseph

Hi Chris,

Most of Areca cards is PCI-e 3.0 already, but the web site did not reflect this new fact yet.
The 12 ports Arc-1882IX-12 and 16 ports Arc-1882IX-16 will meet your requirement.

If you need any areca card, you may go to to get one.


http://www.arecaraid.com/product_info.php?cPath=&products_id=135

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816151108


If you have any further question, please let me know.


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Me to Wayne/Joseph

Thank you Wayne. But even the newegg link you sent goes to card that states that it is PCI 2.0 x8. Are you certain of the PCI 3.0 status? Is it still utilizing 8 lanes?

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Wayne to Me/Joseph

Hi Chris,

I am 100% sure that is PCI-e 3.0, Areca told us not to update the web site yet.

Since Joseph, Head of Areca Sales, is also in this mail pool, He will pin point if what I stated is incorrect.

I just got 50 PCs shipment from Areca last night, if you order via
http://www.arecaraid.com/product_info.php?cPath=&products_id=135
I will guarantee you that you got the latest PCI-e 3.0.

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Me to Wayne/Joseph

Wayne,
If it is truly PCI-e 3.0, then yes, I want one. Can you confirm that with a picture of the box or manual stating such? I'm just kind of surprised that you have one already.
Joseph,

Can you confirm that you have definitely upgraded these to PCI-E 3.0?


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Joseph to Me/Wayne

It’s a PCI-e 3.0 version we shipped recently.
V3.0 printed on PCB silk screen.

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Well. What do you think about that? I'm still waiting on some type of confirmation/picture from Wayne, but I think Areca has stealthed a PCI-e 3.0 card out for us. Unless someone here has some info they think I should know....I'll be ordering one this week. Pumped!
Edited by cpachris - 7/17/12 at 10:36pm
post #717 of 3982
Seems legit. It's great they already have it. Woot! thumb.gif
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Instead of @@'s. Try :rule: .

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Great undercover work. Way to slide in for a win!
    
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Another dye bath test last night, documented in this post.

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