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Originally Posted by Electrocutor View Post

Actually, all flow tests have confirmed that they are just over 4 times more restrictive than an SR-1 radiator. So, 4 SR-1's in series vs 1 AMS for the same flow rate.
I can think of several ways that the flow could be improved by modifying the end caps, but that's not something you want to do with a brand new radiator.

Or just run the rads in parallel, I know a lot of people are against it but if they are the same type it's not a big deal. Rads don't gain performance with flow the same way blocks do.

Part of their design may have been to allow multiple loops to run on the same radiator - they have a 1/3 2/3 split end cap option.

I'd love to review some of those radiators. Radiator testing is even more annoying than cpu testing though.
     
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Found a couple of naked pics of the board here





Hopefully you can come up with a plan of attack regarding liquid cooling the chipset
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Or just run the rads in parallel, I know a lot of people are against it but if they are the same type it's not a big deal. Rads don't gain performance with flow the same way blocks do.
Part of their design may have been to allow multiple loops to run on the same radiator - they have a 1/3 2/3 split end cap option.
I'd love to review some of those radiators. Radiator testing is even more annoying than cpu testing though.

If you noticed the flow design I suggested, It has these rads in triple parallel to try to help compensate for their flow issues. I've not seen or heard of any alternative end-caps, where did you see them listed?
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Originally Posted by GingerJohn View Post

You need a set of these:
Personally I will always pay more for higher quality tools, they last longer and do a better job - which usually works out cheaper in the long run.

Agreed.


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Originally Posted by sortableturnip View Post

That design looks looks overly complex and inefficient. I wonder why they designed it like that.

Complex? Yes
Inefficient? Depends on how you define efficiency for a radiator. Most cooling at lowest flow?
Real question is how effective they are going to be for the flow rate you can achieve in your loop.


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I guess it's because I subscribe to the concept of KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) biggrin.giftongue.gif
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Originally Posted by xxbassplayerxx View Post

Generally a very good theory!

Good thing Intel doesn't subscribe to the same theory. wink.gif


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Originally Posted by engmitch View Post

Wouldn't you want to see the circuiting of the far side before judging it inefficient? Maybe after cpachris rests his allenwrench hand for a bit he could get a pic of the other side?

I've seen a pic online somewhere before...so I will probably spend 10 minutes searching before I deal with those little bolts again. biggrin.gif


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Originally Posted by Electrocutor View Post

Actually, all flow tests have confirmed that they are just over 4 times more restrictive than an SR-1 radiator. So, 4 SR-1's in series vs 1 AMS for the same flow rate.

Yeah, but you're picking on a radiator with pretty low restriction to begin with, in the SR-1. The AMS is actually less restrictive than a GTX at anything less than 1.5 gpm. And less than 1.5 gpm would probably cover the vast majority of all loops. And at 1.0 gpm, the AMS rads are less restrictive than most CPU or GPU blocks. I'm actually pretty excited to see what kind of flow I'll be able to get with the triple subloop you drew up.


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Originally Posted by sortableturnip View Post

If you look at different radiators, you normally see a split between incoming and outgoing:
There is a straight flow between incoming and outgoing (straight up and straight back)
In this review, it shows the flow rate/pressure drop of the aquacomputer is the highest of the radiators tested:

But having a lot of restriction isn't necessarily bad, as long as you have enough pumping power for a decent flow rate.


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Originally Posted by sortableturnip View Post

Found a couple of naked pics of the board here


Hopefully you can come up with a plan of attack regarding liquid cooling the chipset

Those pictures of the board are before they changed the design to a 24+2 power phase. I'd really like to have some board blocks....but I've already contacted Heatkiller, and they are not going to do any. EK is not going to do any. I highly doubt AquaComputer will do any, although I have not asked. I'm exploring seeker's suggestion for a custom block from someone over on the evga forums. I wonder how hot the PLX chips get? I'll bet the LSI chip could use some cooling.
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Originally Posted by cpachris View Post

I wonder how hot the PLX chips get? I'll bet the LSI chip could use some cooling.

I have the LSI RAID card and it has a beefy heatsink, but it does not get that hot. I have an old Aqua block that will fit it, but I decided it wasn't worth the trouble to H20 cool it.
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I have the LSI RAID card and it has a beefy heatsink, but it does not get that hot. I have an old Aqua block that will fit it, but I decided it wasn't worth the trouble to H20 cool it.

That thread for nateman making the custom SRX blocks was pretty amazing. I've left him a post, but it sounds like he is pretty tied up for awhile. We'll see. Since there seem to be almost no other options anyway, I guess I could wait him out. A custom block covering the X79, LSI and PLX chips would be pretty cool.
post #827 of 3982
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Originally Posted by cpachris View Post

That thread for nateman making the custom SRX blocks was pretty amazing. I've left him a post, but it sounds like he is pretty tied up for awhile. We'll see. Since there seem to be almost no other options anyway, I guess I could wait him out. A custom block covering the X79, LSI and PLX chips would be pretty cool.

He can do it and his work is outstanding. We would have to send him a MB and some cash to get started, but he enjoys a challenge. I have a small mill, but he has access to a heavy industrial grade CNC mill. If he can do SR-2's and SR-X's, the Asrock will be much simpler. And now, back to my leak!
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post #828 of 3982
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Or just run the rads in parallel, I know a lot of people are against it but if they are the same type it's not a big deal. Rads don't gain performance with flow the same way blocks do.
Part of their design may have been to allow multiple loops to run on the same radiator - they have a 1/3 2/3 split end cap option.
I'd love to review some of those radiators. Radiator testing is even more annoying than cpu testing though.

It's the two circuit option listed here:

http://shop.aquacomputer.de/index.php?cPath=7_31_838_847

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post #829 of 3982
Found some some good test results for the AMS radiators. They are flow restrictive but I believe the performance more than makes up for it!

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And I thought my green/black reservoir from FrozenQ was cool. This build just keeps getting better and better. The attention to detail is incredible, I can't wait to have the funds to do a build like this
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