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Guys, has anyone tried to fit a 550 watt FSP Aurum 80+ gold in the Node 304. I am planning to switch cases and get a better cooler since my Cooler Master 130 case doesnt allow tower air coolers.
The PSU is 160mm and modular. I know the Fractal Design website says it cannot fit but i am not quite sure as the modular connectors are bunched up to one side and my GTX 970 is a reference palit design and is quite short.

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post #4862 of 7059
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This is my old vid card (282mm) with a 150mmx150mm PSU, which has the modular outputs right next to the 24pin/8pin cables. If the modular outputs were similarly spaced like your Aurum PSU, I might have been able to plug the cables in, but only because I would have had an additional 10mm of clearance between the card and the PSU.

My new vid card is only 198mm, but it still covers part of the PSU.

The only PSU install option you have is fan down, and the shortest Palit GTX 970 I found was 247mm. Which means your vid card will more than likely be right up against the PSU, and covering at least some of those modular outputs.

From Fractal's website:
(Graphics cards longer than 170 mm will conflict with PSUs longer than 160mm)

Fractal more than likely experimented with several different GPU/PSU configurations to come up with this warning. Save yourself a headache.
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Well I was going to try and improve exhausting the hot air from the GPU (if I decide not to water cooler the GPU again witht he G10 and H55 - might have other plans for the H55) by adding two 80mm fans on the top on either side of the storage rack cross-bar on the GPU side. The fans would be mounted to the chassis frame (not the top cover), but would require either drilling holes or making slots in the top cover to exhaust the air. Not sure I want to cut into it though...

But now I just saw this new chassis (Evolve Mini). As soon as they're available I think I'm going to make the switch. Not that I don't like the Node (I love it), but this one has everything I've been looking for in a miniITX chassis. wink.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gShKOco2kzE

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Yeah, I'm not sure what I want to do at this point. By adding two 80mm exhaust fans, that would create negative pressure inside the case which I don't want. Unless I have the H60 for the CPU pull air in, like you suggested and keep the front fans as intake as well. That would keep positive pressure in the case and have all hot air being exhausted out the top.

Where can I get a dust filter for the back? It would have to be easily removable for cleaning.

I think I'm just going to leave it for now and wait for the Evolve mini to hit the market. Might add one 80mm exhaust at the top instead of two. Will help keep case temps down a bit and shouldn't starve the H60 of fresh air in the process. wink.gif

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Yeah, I'm not too keen on pulling air in from the back and I'm a big advocate of uni-directional case air flow (all air flowing in one continuous direction - in front, out the back). It's just a matter of how to deal with the build-up of hot air put off by the GPU under load. I think one 80mm exhaust fan on the top just behind the crossbar would work pretty good for this. Don't forget, the GPU is also pulling fresh cool air from the side vent and this 80mm top exhaust would simply be redirecting that air (after it's been heated) out the top and the two 92mm intakes at the front should still be able to adequately feed the H60 rad at the back. wink.gif

The PSU I keep face-down, pulling it's own air through the filter on the bottom (love that feature).

One thing I will say about dust build up - ever since I set up my new desk and now have the node sitting up off the floor on top of the desk, the dust build up has been minimal to non-existent. I used to have to clean all the filters every two weeks when it sat on the floor (we have 4 small dogs). It's now been 3 weeks and there's still nothing on the filters! What a huge difference! biggrin.gif Would still prefer to have filters than not though. wink.gif
Somebody earlier was thinking about doing the case mod you have described. He too (@Toi ZA) did not want to ruin the finish of the case, so he opted to make custom panels. I think he plans to mount the fans on the frame as well, but he has not posted updates recently. Check out post #4784 to follow up on his comments.

@HandsomeChow
So you are interested in fitting a 160mm modular PSU into this case. Jamnbam is spot on about the PSU dimension restrictions. A 150mm modular PSU will probably fit without modifications, but a 160mm modular PSU will not fit without modifications.
For a 160mm modular PSU to fit, you will need to remove the PSU bracket and shorten a stub from the front panel. Once that is done it will fit, but I mounted the PSU with the fan up. You could see the results below.
post #4864 of 7059
Add me

Thought about getting a smaller case for my file server, because Antec P180 is quite large and Intel D510mo is quite small smile.gif
Found this thread and then one thing lead to another...

I ended up buying a whole new computer smile.gif

Asus Z87i-Pro
Intel i5-4670K
Kingston HyperX Genesis 16GB Kit
Noctua NH-U9B
couple of Noctua NF-B9s
and of course, the Node 304.

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I would not have otherwise bought all of these, but I got such a good deal that would have been very foolish not to buy.
Although some of them are customer returns, and some refurbished bulk products.

Picture was taken on a christmas day when I was putting everything together.
Unfortunately the motherboard was defective. I left it running overnight, but it was turned off during the night and would only start for a second.
Got a new PSU out of warranty, but that didn't do any good.
Now I have to wait to get the motherboard back. Should propably come back next week, I hope...
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You guys are added smile.gif

Bummer about the broken parts, always sucks when that happens.
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A concern I have is that most mini-ITX motherboards only have a single chassis fan connector, but the case has 3 fans, and I *really* don't want to be using the molex connector for the inbuilt fan control, because that means an extra cable from my PSU.

You can probably buy a fan hub like this, and use that instead. Other problem now is where to route it, although I bet that would be easy enough.
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Hi guys and girls, I would like to pimp up my node a bit. I would like all fans to be pwm so I can ditch the fan controller for less cable clutter and have the system exactly as loud as I want. Also I have a non modular PSU.

So I would like some advice on good fans and a quiet modular PSU with short/flat cables.

I was thinking about 2 x noctua 92mm a-9 pwm for intake. Then I have a nh-d14 cooler. But the thing is, it's rather massive and taking up every inch above the motherboard. The rear exhaust fan is also squeezed between the heatsink and case, so I can't change exhaust fan without reseating heatsink frown.gif And I think them being so close together gives a lot of turbulence. And maybe it forces hot air from the GPU through the heatsink first too before exiting which brings more restriction and a warmer cpu?
So I was maybe thinking about a new heatsink that leaves more room between it and the back panel. The noctua U14S seems great for the job. It comes with a noctua nf-A15 pwm fan.
Then I would need an exhaust, I was thinking about another nf-A15 pwm fan. Or nf-S12A pwm seems like a good option too?

And for PSU any recommendations? I heard about cooler master V550 beeing pretty okay for this case but the cables seem quite long. But that will be the case with all ATX power supplies, or not?


P.S. I like noctua wink.gif
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Hi guys and girls, I would like to pimp up my node a bit. I would like all fans to be pwm so I can ditch the fan controller for less cable clutter and have the system exactly as loud as I want. Also I have a non modular PSU.

So I would like some advice on good fans and a quiet modular PSU with short/flat cables.

I was thinking about 2 x noctua 92mm a-9 pwm for intake. Then I have a nh-d14 cooler. But the thing is, it's rather massive and taking up every inch above the motherboard. The rear exhaust fan is also squeezed between the heatsink and case, so I can't change exhaust fan without reseating heatsink frown.gif And I think them being so close together gives a lot of turbulence. And maybe it forces hot air from the GPU through the heatsink first too before exiting which brings more restriction and a warmer cpu?
So I was maybe thinking about a new heatsink that leaves more room between it and the back panel. The noctua U14S seems great for the job. It comes with a noctua nf-A15 pwm fan.
Then I would need an exhaust, I was thinking about another nf-A15 pwm fan. Or nf-S12A pwm seems like a good option too?

And for PSU any recommendations? I heard about cooler master V550 beeing pretty okay for this case but the cables seem quite long. But that will be the case with all ATX power supplies, or not?


P.S. I like noctua wink.gif

Silverstone sell short cables kit for some of their PSUs.

I wouldn't get the noctua a9 since they are only 15mm thick and won't perform as well as standard 25mm thick fans.
I wouldn't recommend the nf a15 for exhaust. The frame is quite large and might not fit. They are expensive fans and made for high pressure environment, such as against a radiator.
If you like noctua, they make cheaper and more suitable pwm fans for case intake/exhaust.
The nh u14s is a good choice IMO.
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Hey guys....

I'm new to the group! I've owned my Node304 for almost 2 years now and its sole purpose is a HTPC...and I absolutely love it!

With all of the requests for a quiet running HTPC and everyone recommending Noctua (I myself have a few in my rig)...how come no one is recommending watercooling for CPU?

Wouldn't this route free up more space in our boxes? For instance...I'm currently running 8GB RAM but I'd like to upgrade but I can't do a simple swap in because my honkin' huge NH-C12P SE14 is in the way LOL
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AiO watercoolers are a good option as well, but some aircoolers can perform equally or better while remaining more silent.

I think it's better solution if one needs a lot of room for many HDDs and cable routing. Other than that you better go for a good aircooler imo.
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