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Give me a couple of days to get you this info. I'm actually running a H90 now, but still have the Thermalright. I will swap them out this weekend and take the measurements.

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Wow, that would be really kind of you!!! smile.gif
 
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Hey guys,

I have been checking here in OC for information related to Node 304 already in the end of 2013, when I started to plan my own mini-itx gaming computer. I build my Node 304 computer in early 2014 by mostly using components from my previous ATX -computer, and then bought new motherboard, processor, case, and cpu cooler to the get the size reduced. Normal HDD and SSD combo has also been changed to one SSD.

In the future, I am planning to change my case fans to Noctua Redux ones (NF-B9 redux-1600 x2 and NF-P14s redux-1200, if you have better choices I am willing to hear!) and change my PSU to modular one (Superflower golden green non-modular is 163 mm long and there are too many cables for any reasonable cable management) and also update my old graphics card to be more suitable for 1440p gaming

For the PSU I am wondering between different options:
Cooler Master V550 (full-modular) 120€
Silverstone Strider 550W gold 104€ platinium 120€ (short cable kit would also be nice to have)
EVGA 650W SuperNOVA 650 GS 102 € (7€ cheaper than 550W) (is 10mm longer that the other two, will it make a difference?)

I have also read this forum to know that there is Seasonic G-550, but I wouldn't want to have semi-modular PSU and it is also really long and challenging for cable management. What I want would be silent and tidy build. I have been trying to search reviews from JohnnyGuru etc. but I would like to hear comments related to Node 304, especially about noise and cable management.

I am planning to upgrade graphics card when the new series will come from Nvidia and AMD, hopefully this year.


I would love to hear your thoughts.

Here is some pictures of the current state of my rig. // I know, I should have used two-sided tape for the ssd, but that was only tape that was available at that time, lets add that also to future corrections smile.gif

-Kempukka




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I can't say much about the front fans, except that I'm satisfied with my 92mm Silentwings 2 pwm, which are dead silent even at 1200RPM...
For the PSU, you can remove the bracket if you choose a 160mm modular unit. I got the Seasonic G-Series 550w, and it's not THAT pain in the bottom about cable management, as long as you tie some cables (like the Sata connectors) to the frame.
I also got the CM V750 full modular psu (same dimensions as the 550 if I remember well): it's a breeze to work with, honestly, since the cables are flat, so it's easy to tie them up. But my unit had a heavy coil whine, so I'm not that sure about it's quality build anymore (doing an RMA now).

Good choice going full ssd noise wise wink.gif
     
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I just fit the Corsair RM650x fully modular PSU a few posts back with photos. It's very quiet, with hybrid fan mode, and got excellent reviews.
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I can't say much about the front fans, except that I'm satisfied with my 92mm Silentwings 2 pwm, which are dead silent even at 1200RPM...
For the PSU, you can remove the bracket if you choose a 160mm modular unit. I got the Seasonic G-Series 550w, and it's not THAT pain in the bottom about cable management, as long as you tie some cables (like the Sata connectors) to the frame.
I also got the CM V750 full modular psu (same dimensions as the 550 if I remember well): it's a breeze to work with, honestly, since the cables are flat, so it's easy to tie them up. But my unit had a heavy coil whine, so I'm not that sure about it's quality build anymore (doing an RMA now).

Good choice going full ssd noise wise wink.gif

Silentwings 2 are quite expensive compared to those noctuas 20€ / 92 mm fan and 26€/140 mm fan. Noctuas redux line is 12€ /92mm and 16€/140mm. (didn't remember to add that to my first post). I know quite a little about case fans, I just compared those noctuas to fractals fan and noticed that they produce much better airflow with the same desibel level and they are not too expensive. I really don't have had that huge problems with the fans and I keep them in 5 volts as in 7 volts I can already hear them over my system. When playing, I need to put the fan controller to higher position so the warm air would come out of the system, so I thought I could getter also better fans to keep it silent.

Seasonic G-550 is priced 97€ here, but isn't Evga GS-series based on the same platform, but for 5€ more and I can get it full-modular and bit shorter and also semi-passive mode (could work quite well with 650W). Semi-modularity could indeed help a lot (I think my PSU has dual PCI-E cables for sli graphics card, which is completely useless in mini-itx case) but still I would like to go full modular.
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I just fit the Corsair RM650x fully modular PSU a few posts back with photos. It's very quiet, with hybrid fan mode, and got excellent reviews.

The price for RM550x is around 125€ so it would be the most expensive of all and would also be longer. I like your builds cable management as it is quite neat, especially the part that the cables are running in the side of the PSU. It could be a good option, however I would prefer a solution that I wouldn't need to tape the PSU and I could just install it normally to the bracket.
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Hi, i've got a Fractal 304 and have read problems re. fitting a Coolermaster Nepton 140XL, but what about a Nepton 120XL? My worry is that while the diameter of the Rad & Fans are smaller, the fact that you've got an additional fan makes the whole thing protrude inwards further from the rear. I thought maybe I'd be able to mount the Rad's exhaust fan on the outside of the case, as that's been mentioned as a possibility, but I don't see how/where i'd be able to route its cable back inside the case.

Has anyone tried it out with pics?

What i'm building is a high-perfomance (So I would like to do stuff like encoding video etc.) yet headless media server that'll be placed in the living room (so the PCI-E slot will be taken up with a TV Tuner rather than a graphics card), and as a result I'd like noise kept to a minimum re. the amount of fans I use etc.

The CPU will be an i7 6700k, but I would not want to overclock it further than what it is at stock speed.

I was hoping I might be able to get away with having the Nepton 120XL replacing the 140mm fan in the rear, then just having the 2 front-mounted fans pushing air into the case.
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Silentwings 2 are quite expensive compared to those noctuas 20€ / 92 mm fan and 26€/140 mm fan. Noctuas redux line is 12€ /92mm and 16€/140mm. (didn't remember to add that to my first post). I know quite a little about case fans, I just compared those noctuas to fractals fan and noticed that they produce much better airflow with the same desibel level and they are not too expensive. I really don't have had that huge problems with the fans and I keep them in 5 volts as in 7 volts I can already hear them over my system. When playing, I need to put the fan controller to higher position so the warm air would come out of the system, so I thought I could getter also better fans to keep it silent.

Seasonic G-550 is priced 97€ here, but isn't Evga GS-series based on the same platform, but for 5€ more and I can get it full-modular and bit shorter and also semi-passive mode (could work quite well with 650W). Semi-modularity could indeed help a lot (I think my PSU has dual PCI-E cables for sli graphics card, which is completely useless in mini-itx case) but still I would like to go full modular.
The price for RM550x is around 125€ so it would be the most expensive of all and would also be longer. I like your builds cable management as it is quite neat, especially the part that the cables are running in the side of the PSU. It could be a good option, however I would prefer a solution that I wouldn't need to tape the PSU and I could just install it normally to the bracket.

I see, the RM650x was only £76 here in the UK, so was very competitive when you consider the build quality and fan profile.
I didnt secure the PSU at all by the way. The only thing securing it is the cable tie that ties the 24pin ATX cable through the PSU fan grill at the bottom of the case.

Reason why i didnt go for the G550 or the V550S, was their fan profile. Their build quality is great, thye just arent very silent.
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I see, the RM650x was only £76 here in the UK, so was very competitive when you consider the build quality and fan profile.
I didnt secure the PSU at all by the way. The only thing securing it is the cable tie that ties the 24pin ATX cable through the PSU fan grill at the bottom of the case.

Reason why i didnt go for the G550 or the V550S, was their fan profile. Their build quality is great, thye just arent very silent.

Thanks! Good to know. Yeah I definitely want something that is also quiet. And I checked the price for RM650x, the 550W model was just 110€ so not that bad.
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Hi, i've got a Fractal 304 and have read problems re. fitting a Coolermaster Nepton 140XL, but what about a Nepton 120XL? My worry is that while the diameter of the Rad & Fans are smaller, the fact that you've got an additional fan makes the whole thing protrude inwards further from the rear. I thought maybe I'd be able to mount the Rad's exhaust fan on the outside of the case, as that's been mentioned as a possibility, but I don't see how/where i'd be able to route its cable back inside the case.

Has anyone tried it out with pics?

What i'm building is a high-perfomance (So I would like to do stuff like encoding video etc.) yet headless media server that'll be placed in the living room (so the PCI-E slot will be taken up with a TV Tuner rather than a graphics card), and as a result I'd like noise kept to a minimum re. the amount of fans I use etc.

The CPU will be an i7 6700k, but I would not want to overclock it further than what it is at stock speed.

I was hoping I might be able to get away with having the Nepton 120XL replacing the 140mm fan in the rear, then just having the 2 front-mounted fans pushing air into the case
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I put a Corsair H90 into mine. With the 140mm rad I ran into issues of it touching the GPU and it actually not letting it go into the PCI-E properly. I just used a drill w/ bit and added a few holes into the back of the case. Works great. You shouldn't have any issues with a 120mm rad even if you have two fans on it with a push/pull configuration.
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