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You mean in the CPU? How would I go solving that? Only thing I changed in the bios was deactivating the CPU graphic unit (messing up GPU's memory clock for some reason).

The VID for the CPU gives me between 700 and 1299, is that too high?

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Hey guyz,

Quite new here, stumbled on this thread through a google search. Hope you don't mind if I ask a few questions ...

I got a 304 quite a while ago, with an i5 at the time. Long story short, the i5 got upgraded to an i7 a few days ago, and since then I've only run into problems after problems. So I just need some advice, and maybe to be told my situation's normal.

So first off, got a very ****ty draw at the stock cooler game with my i7. Horrible coil whine, wierd noise. Already spent quite enough, might as well get a proper cool right, so here I go ordering a 212. Aaaand got a bad luck too, ****ty stock fan that blows like an air conditionner would. So hey, I orderer a Silent Wings for that one too ...

But thing is, not only the case is getting noisy, but hot as well. CPU temps are around 40°C idle, and can sometimes jump to more than 70 while gaming (rarely above 70 though). I know it's "ok" in terms of safety, but is it acceptable given the am cooler? Also, I've installed the cooler fan facing straight into the exhaust fan, is that ok? Because it kinda looks like it's blocking air flow, but my ram not being low profile at all ...

Also, I have a SYS_FAN header on my motherboard, can I plug the case fan in that? Is there anyway to plug the 3 of them? If I had to pick one, would it be the rear one?

Thank you very much to anyone with a bit of time to share their wisdow. redface.gif

Some additional information would be helpful. CPU and motherboard would be a good start.

I would make sure your mobo BIOS is up to date. One of my recent builds the AUTO voltage setting for my CPU was way too high causing idle temps to be high. Updated the BIOS and corrected that issue. I would expect(depending on the CPU model) your idle temps to be in the high 20's to mid 30's.

You could mess with the CPU fan profile in the BIOS or windows utility(again depending on the mobo version) to increase the idle fan speed of your CPU cooler. From the sounds of it the idle temp is high but your load temp seems to be good.

Assuming you are using the fan controller built into the case, what setting is it on, High, Medium or Low? If you aren't pushing enough air through the case, that could cause the high idle temps.

I would be more inclined to put the CPU cooler fan on the front of the cooler, that's if you can get it on there over your RAM. Also make sure the fan direction is correct, if you have the rear fan blowing out and the CPU cooler fan going the other way that will cause turbulence.

You should be able to hook all three interior fans to your mobo with a splitter. I would just make sure the combined wattage of the fans does not exceed the wattage max of the header.
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Could also be a bad mount
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Hi,

I'm new to the thread, just order my node 304, as well as most of the parts for my new build yesterday. While waiting for them to arrive, I'm doing some reading here and figuring out how i want to cool my box. The build is intented as a NAS for my living room. I want it to run as cool and silent as possible.

I'm thinking of getting two NF-A9 and one NF-14A for the case. My motherboard only has 2 PWM fan headers. I read in some other posts, that the recommended solution for plugging them is to have the two 92mm intake fans splitted to one header and the CPU fan as well as the exhaust 140mm splitted to the CPU fan header. However I'm not sure i understand how splitting fan works. If I have a 120mm fan for the CPU and the 140mm exhaust splitted on the same header, will the mobo still be able to control their speed adequately? Will the fan with the lowest RPM only be able to run at the lowest speed of the other fan? What if the max RPM of the two fans isn't the same?

Another question I have, is about the cooling of the motherboard itself. I have a semi-passive PSU, and hope that the PSU fan will mostly stay in passive mode. Is the airflow from the case fans enough to cool the motherboard properly? In this photo, it looks like the airflow is mostly limited to the upper volume of the case:
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Thus my question, is a top-down blower like the intel stock, or the NH-L12 necessary to cool the motherboard and it's components properly (and to make it last)? Does anyone have experience with this cooler inside de node 304?
The ambient temperature will be between 20 and 30C.

The parts:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($59.59 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock C236 WSI Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($195.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston ValueRAM 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($76.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($136.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($108.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($108.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($108.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design Node 304 Mini ITX Tower Case ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $981.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-18 05:45 EDT-0400
The PSU is actually a Corsair SF450 (with a silverstone sfx to atx bracket), but i couldn't find it on pcpartpicker.

I'd appreciate any advice or comment!

Have a nice day
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Hi,

I'm new to the thread, just order my node 304, as well as most of the parts for my new build yesterday. While waiting for them to arrive, I'm doing some reading here and figuring out how i want to cool my box. The build is intented as a NAS for my living room. I want it to run as cool and silent as possible.

I'm thinking of getting two NF-A9 and one NF-14A for the case. My motherboard only has 2 PWM fan headers. I read in some other posts, that the recommended solution for plugging them is to have the two 92mm intake fans splitted to one header and the CPU fan as well as the exhaust 140mm splitted to the CPU fan header. However I'm not sure i understand how splitting fan works. If I have a 120mm fan for the CPU and the 140mm exhaust splitted on the same header, will the mobo still be able to control their speed adequately? Will the fan with the lowest RPM only be able to run at the lowest speed of the other fan? What if the max RPM of the two fans isn't the same?

Another question I have, is about the cooling of the motherboard itself. I have a semi-passive PSU, and hope that the PSU fan will mostly stay in passive mode. Is the airflow from the case fans enough to cool the motherboard properly? In this photo, it looks like the airflow is mostly limited to the upper volume of the case:
Thus my question, is a top-down blower like the intel stock, or the NH-L12 necessary to cool the motherboard and it's components properly (and to make it last)? Does anyone have experience with this cooler inside de node 304?
The ambient temperature will be between 20 and 30C.

The parts:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($59.59 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock C236 WSI Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($195.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston ValueRAM 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($76.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($136.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($108.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($108.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($108.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design Node 304 Mini ITX Tower Case ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $981.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-18 05:45 EDT-0400
The PSU is actually a Corsair SF450 (with a silverstone sfx to atx bracket), but i couldn't find it on pcpartpicker.

I'd appreciate any advice or comment!

Have a nice day

With a PWM splitter only one of the connections actually has all 4 pins. The 4th pin is there to provide data feedback to the controller. After doing some reading Here PWM is essentially impulses of 12V of power, which to me means that even if you had fans of different min/max RPM, if you set the duty cycle to 50% both fans would run at 50% of their given RPM range, because everything on the splitter is being supplied with power 50% of the time.

I personally don't like to have anything other than CPU cooler fan(s) on the CPU fan header. You could 3 way split the other header and attach your front(2) and rear fans giving you PWM control over all of them.

I used a top down blower for my build NH-L9i but I actually flipped the fan around so it pulled air away from the mobo. I did this so it pulled air up into the air channel you have drawn in the picture, rather than fighting against it. It looks like you could do the same with the NH-L12. You can see it below.


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Thank you for the link, an interesting read.

I just ordered the noctua fans and the NH-12L.
I think I will follow your advice and not plug any other fan in the CPU header to avoid the "ramping up" noise from the case fan.
And I think i will perform some tests with the fans on the NH-12L in both directions to see what the motherboard temps are.
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Thank you for the link, an interesting read.

I just ordered the noctua fans and the NH-12L.
I think I will follow your advice and not plug any other fan in the CPU header to avoid the "ramping up" noise from the case fan.
And I think i will perform some tests with the fans on the NH-12L in both directions to see what the motherboard temps are.

The included fan controller might be enough for you. I set mine to medium and just let it run. I have since moved to a different case, but I still have my Node laying around ready for something else or someone else biggrin.gif:D Having a hard time parting with it, especially with all the time and effort I put into it cramming a hot swappable cage in it.
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Thank you for the link, an interesting read.

I just ordered the noctua fans and the NH-12L.
I think I will follow your advice and not plug any other fan in the CPU header to avoid the "ramping up" noise from the case fan.
And I think i will perform some tests with the fans on the NH-12L in both directions to see what the motherboard temps are.

For a NAS the included controller on medium is enough.
Or use PWM splitters as you say and keep the fan curves fairly static, then it won't matter how you split the headers.

I used a splitter because it means I don't need to run a molex cable from the PSU.
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hey guys whats the latest on AIO gpu coolers that will fit in the node? will it fit something like this?

https://www.alphacool.com/shop/-neue-produkte-/21400/alphacool-eiswolf-120-gpx-pro-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-/-1070-m01-black

here is mine, MSI seakhawk 1070. Issue was clearance of CPU fan, I got a cryorig C5 and it JUST fits under the tank. I only used one fan as well, I just used the orgainl case fan and attached it to the tank without PWM control. Runs around 45*C that way and quiet.

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didnt fit my orginal RM750 PSU, needed to buy a CS650, needs to be less than 160mm (less for modular) otherwise it hits the card.

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yep the lid closes, the above is my HTPC/Gaming PC OC i5 with the water cooled 1070GTX.

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needless to say I love this case, 9 builds so far! , use it at home and work.

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