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you never know, the greater computer using public may like it..It's been my experience that geeks don't like anything different.
All in ones are getting more popular at least in my electronics store, currently there is one there that is not touch screen. Maybe MS is assumes this will be the next big wave especially combined with kinect. If they're right Apple is in for a world of hurt, the hip crowd will sell their iPads and buy surfaces. MBP's will be replaced with samsung and Apple people will be relegated to the riges again right where we like it biggrin.gif
Yup, we are on the edge of touch screen mass production. In America we just launched our first car with a touch screen interface in the dash. It will only mature and progress in the next couple of years. This is another major reason Microsoft is making Windows 8. I'm willing to bet Windows 8 will come pre-loaded in a vehicle before the end of 2013.
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I removed Windows 8 from my personal computer. I couldn't use it for my Desktop. My family also hated it so its out of my family computer too. Still, I am very exited to use it on the MS Tablet. I really think this OS is freaking great on a Tablet/Touchscreens. I think this OS will help MS in that area but not much in the desktop.

I hope companies start implementing touch stuff to gaming mice/trackpads/keyboards somehow. I think its time to redo the "keyboard/mice" for the desktop and add some way to use touch stuff. This would make it a lot easier to use Windows 8 IMO. It would be awesome to make my Logitech G400 mice have some kind of touch thing to do the swipes to bring up the new start menu (just like the Apple mouse). Somehow the software would have to detect that you are using a program that is not made for touch so that it doesn't get on the way (like in games).

My overall thought is: Windows 8 is not good for regular desktop. For touch screen its gonna be a killer OS. Having "touch" mice to do swipes and other touch stuff will help desktops IMO (much better than using a million keyboard shortcuts.)
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I hope someone will come along with more constructive criticism other then "the interface! the interface!".

So you think that user interface problem on a general masses OS is not a valid critic point? Give me a break.
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Eh, I wouldn't base your own opinion on the judgment of others. Windows 8 is a real piece of art for those fluent in it. I would download and install it to a USB drive to try it out, then make final judgement based on your own personal experience. As for someone who has used it for months, I can say the OS is amazing. The fastest and most productive Windows operating system to date by far. Tho Microsoft could screw it up between now and the Release Candidate. In which I am highly doubting (its Microsoft). I just cant wait for all the Metro apps to hit the Metro store. Netflix and all them will make life so much easier being able to watch movies in exactly two clicks. Plus I will be able to watch movies without even touching my desktop space, so I can code a project. And watch a movie at the same time with only minor screen compromise. Just so many perks to the new and improved OS, even Windows Charms makes it so you don't have to leave your application to do something. Overall productivity output is increased ten fold.

Yea... once again with the whole productivity speech. That's entirely subjective and
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Linux hasn't became what it should be simply because the lack of support. They change a lot of visual design in every version of software. Thus it never stops anyone from upgrading to newer versions. Windows 8 plays in the same respect, there is nothing different about it and Windows 7. Except 8 has Windows Charms, Metro, and a few other little gizmos. Once you really strip them two things from it, its hard to say you don't end up with a Windows 7 desktop environment. Windows 8 is a fresh start for Microsoft to build a solid platform, just like that of XP. At this point in time Windows 8 is the top dog of all the Windows OS's in terms of performance.
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With all the negativity going around over how people can't use it because they don't find Metro "appealing". Is like saying you wont drive a pink Ferrari just because its pink. Its a ridiculous dispute we all agree. But for cold hard facts, Windows 8 is a godsend for those who know how to use it, and enjoy using it. Its still a big leap forward in computing technology. A prime example is the boot loader that Windows 8 uses. It utilizes virtualization to speed up boot times. With most Windows operating systems being based off their predecessor, I don't see Windows 9 having a classic start menu either. As the possibility of it being based off Windows 8 is an 80% assurance. And I honestly hope they do finally trash can the classic start menu, it was about time they removed that slow annoying thing. We have to remove these things in order to make room for these new technology's. Microsoft has been riding the same desktop environment train for 14 long years. This is why its so obvious that most people seem angry about the change. But honestly if Windows 9 shipped with Metro, people would just use it anyways and not care. As Metro would become the norm, and I hope it does. As I don't feel like being stuck in August 24, 1995.

can't just post a picture wherein the only major benefit is a quicker boot time and eveything is is on par or a second faster and go "look see told you it makes you more productive!" because shaving a second off compressing a 700mb file isn't going to break any new ground. The only benefit I saw from that picture was the quicker boot time.

Your criticisms are invalid and worthless. Stuck in 1995? For the love of all that is great give me a break...
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Yup, we are on the edge of touch screen mass production. In America we just launched our first car with a touch screen interface in the dash. It will only mature and progress in the next couple of years. This is another major reason Microsoft is making Windows 8. I'm willing to bet Windows 8 will come pre-loaded in a vehicle before the end of 2013.

I'm actually American, married to a German working for the Army.

I think a full touch screen in a car would be distracting, but Mercedes Entertainment/Nav system is all touch based. ICE is expanding at pretty rapid rate so a full touch screen computer in a car running windows hooked to 4G wouldn't suprise me at all.
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As Metro would become the norm, and I hope it does. As I don't feel like being stuck in August 24, 1995.

You mean back to 1985?

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I removed Windows 8 from my personal computer. I couldn't use it for my Desktop. My family also hated it so its out of my family computer too. Still, I am very exited to use it on the MS Tablet. I really think this OS is freaking great on a Tablet/Touchscreens. I think this OS will help MS in that area but not much in the desktop.
I hope companies start implementing touch stuff to gaming mice/trackpads/keyboards somehow. I think its time to redo the "keyboard/mice" for the desktop and add some way to use touch stuff. This would make it a lot easier to use Windows 8 IMO. It would be awesome to make my Logitech G400 mice have some kind of touch thing to do the swipes to bring up the new start menu (just like the Apple mouse). Somehow the software would have to detect that you are using a program that is not made for touch so that it doesn't get on the way (like in games).
My overall thought is: Windows 8 is not good for regular desktop. For touch screen its gonna be a killer OS. Having "touch" mice to do swipes and other touch stuff will help desktops IMO (much better than using a million keyboard shortcuts.)
Imo the Metro interface is a totally faster start menu. Two clicks and you can launch any application on your computer in less then 4 seconds. Sure beats the scrolling, sliding, and unorganized classic start menu (not opinion, proven fact) Yet a few people in this thread will try telling you otherwise. Too many thread derailers, the same ones came back in. Wonder what happens next... wink.gif
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So you think that user interface problem on a general masses OS is not a valid critic point? Give me a break.
Its a mobile OS, so why should desktop users have the right to complain about it? Kinda pointless saying "dude this mobile OS sucks for my desktop, I hate Microsoft and its sucky Windows...". Then classifying the entire OS a failure when its statistically the best OS Microsoft has made yet.
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You mean back to 1985?
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Nope 1995 is when Windows 95 debuted.
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Good? Bad? Don't know to be honest and I can't/won't pass judgement on W8. I do know this though... It isn't as "intuitive" as I would like it to be. I admit I only used it for a week and a half and maybe that's not enough (depending on each persons definition of enough) but truth be told, I need to be able to be up and running in as functional of a way as possible in a very short period of time. After a week I was still having trouble with some elements. Granted, once I learned them I was good to go. I just spent too much time looking for ways to do things.

Oh... and the fact that one good day I turned on my machine and when entering W8 it rebooted and erased my user accound did not help my credibility with it. My account had been erased for some reason. Not gonna say it was a W8 issue but not going to say it was something I did either. Simply "Kahbrohn" no longer existed as an administrator user on the system. Really odd...
    
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Think this discussion has gone on long enough smile.gif. Thanks everyone...
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