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Ok scratch the top, i decided to take out the big guns IBT
Prime95 dont give a decent representation on temps with a blend test neither an unrealistic top load what gives the max heat in a quick run... Have to wait like 15minutes to really see a difference on the load, IBT do this for you and then some... Both are unrealistic loads hence the big temps wise, but i want to check temps here XD

So now ask yourself how i can get a ludicrous load to achieve the max heat than any application out there can give you in one single run and in the quickest time possible?

IBT do this for you with a lot of ram loaded on it so you can really measure it... Cannot get more stable than that. No drastics up and downs either XD.


here are my results

Change case config a bit (patch the side panel holes with cardboard and some tape), my goal is to create the max performance possible with less fans and noise taking in consideration overall performance XD

IE: Creating a vacuum instead on bombarding the case with useless fans XD

Cable management is very good the rest of the setup is in my signature...

Now the test:
Legend (graph)
Blue: CPU
Green: Mother Board/System
Brown: Core Package (max temp reported on the highest core)

No Intakes/ The Side Panel Blocked

Stress Level
Custom / 14800MB

Time to finish
455.599ms

Ambient
29C


Before IBT
nointakessidepanelblock.png

After IBT
nointakessidepanelblock.png



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IBT with 2x140mm Intakes/ Side Panel Blocked

Stress Level
Custom / 14800MB

Time to finish
453.703ms

Ambient
29C

Before IBT
intakessidepanelblocked.png

After IBT
intakessidepanelblocked.png


Conclusion later because further testing needed, need to cover more holes and open more (customize) the front of the case...
So far no intake fans needed, less dust going in and best performance overall....
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Forgot, CPU is overclocked to 4.5GHz with 1.35v running on it...
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i'm not a guru, but this isn't hard to figure out.
the one on the left is the fans mounted up front as it is running hotter (assuming the
numbers on the left are ° marks) as it is peaking at about 79°-81° the one on the right
in running 74°-76° with just the exhaust and radiator in push exhaust.
and so you ask why run intake fans at all if they are going to overheat my case?
you should really check out the thread on air case cooling:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1041926/how-to-decide-on-a-case-for-air-cooling-warning-pics/0_40

you might even receive better by moving the radiator to the forward mount, and utilize the
side panel fan(s) mount(s). reasons are the front fans are drawing air in, but that is all, the
upper fans are pulling phantom air (more than likely from the side panel) and cooling the
upper half (area above video card) because of the strong pull from the exhaust fans.
the front fans are barely functional past 150-180mm after the front fan. and if you have any
obstacles behind them, you just have a bigger problem.

the idea is alot of filtered cold air in and alot of hot air out.

just rough thought, your case is 19.1 x 8.3 x 17.7 = 2806in³ or 234ft³
your 140mm fans are @ 12v able to produce 69cfm each = 138cfm (way under capacity)
meaning it takes 102sec to just fill your case up with new air.
your noctua fans are @ 12v are 59cfm (S12B) and 55cfm (F12) = 114cfm (way under capacity)
meaning it takes 123sec to pull all of the air of of the case.

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from youe second post:
check your GPU temps. if you use the side panel fans, the GPU will run
cooler, the upper half of case will get a larger supply of air and the exhaust
fans can have cooler air too.

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Yes, but there is always a BUT..

Front fans are obstructed in their original setup, so the original movement of air is drastically changed by the obstacles.. Like for example the mesh, the hdd cage all of this dont help of air movement even with a good fan you still going to see less performance.. Heavy modication would be needed.. Like removing all the hdd cages, cutting the mesh even taking out the front bezel of the case... If i want to do all that i just put the hardware in a open bench dont you think?

Exhaust fans perform way better and closer to their specs than intakes fans....
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from youe second post:
check your GPU temps. if you use the side panel fans, the GPU will run
cooler, the upper half of case will get a larger supply of air and the exhaust
fans can have cooler air too.
airdeano

The setup right now perform the same with front or no fans at all...

The vidcard area is another thing i need to consider later when i watercool that one too...
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i'm not a guru, but this isn't hard to figure out.
the one on the left is the fans mounted up front as it is running hotter

Btw, the first post that i deleted, the one on the left is the one without intakes XD

Replace that test with a real IBT test which one gives me higher temps than prime and second a more accurate constant reading ...
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really consult that link. its long and crammed with interuptions. but quite resourceful.
it is worth considering just filling the case with active high pressure fans, no exhaust
fans and a high-end air cooler. your typical 75°-80° would be low 60°-68° and the GPU
would be a lot happier with the fresher air too. and done quietly, too!!
i wouldn't wholly condemn the grill yest. a high static pressure would overcome that issue
like a radiator it'll pass quickly. it's a stock 140mm fan with no real performance value.

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You think getting under 73c on a huge load im talking about almost 15gb of ram on IBT is that easy??
The regular load test is 1024mb and temps goes up and down each pass and between loading and finish each round at least 10c less or more, then it goes up again..
I manage to overpass this by putting a higher load.. So it lasts longer hence trying to get more heat XD...


read here http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1664940


Remember the following, no intakes and a cheapo antec 620 with 29c as ambient...

There is people with better water coolers and more expensive equipment than mine and cannot control the heat given by IBT...

Edit: Turn down my vcore to 1.325v drop 5c max out at 68c (core package 71c) ambient temp 30c XD
Time was faster too to complete 450.515ms
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Seasonic X850W 80 Plus Gold Cooler Master Cosmos II 
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Intel 2500k Shuttle Intel H67 Power Color ATI 6870 G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB 
CoolingOSPowerCase
Shuttle ICE2 Multiple Boot PC with Windows 7/XP/Backtrack 5 Shuttle PSU 300w Shuttle SH67H3 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD X2 4400+ Jetway 939GT4-SLI-G Power Color ATI 4670 OCZ GOLD DDR500 2GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
4X Seagate Barracuda LP 2 TB Western Digital Caviar Blue 640 GB LG OEM DVD-RW Zalman 7000B-AlCu LED  
CoolingOSPowerCase
4x 120mm Economical Cooler Master Fans Windows 7 Ultimate Cooler Master Elite 460W XION AXP 600 
Other
SNT-SAC2131TL SATA Backplane Cage 
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