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Laing DDC-1T enough for CPU + GPU

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6/9/12 at 6:56am

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Hi all!

Im just to pull the trigger and get back to water cooling and, I am deciding what pump to buy.

I was wondering if the DDC-1T is enough for a loop in a little Lian Li A05nb, with the aquagrafx and Raystorm blocks plus 2 radiators (360 + 120 mm), as the size of the pump matters for me. The one I was thinking on is the MCP655, both with an EK Top + EK 150 res x2 on top.

Thanks.

PS: When I say "enough" I mean there will be no difference between these pumps in my loop in terms of performance. I know one DDC-1T can handle such loop, but in comparsion with a 655, I dont know what the difference is.
Edited by Mayor Winters - 6/9/12 at 7:01am

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6/9/12 at 7:43am

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It will do fine. Flow is hugely overrated. Bigger pumps don't translate to a lower water temperature or more heat dispersion.

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6/9/12 at 7:45am

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Thank you, then ill go with the DDC 1T as is tinier.

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6/9/12 at 7:49am

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The difference wont impact performance enough to really matter in most common setups.

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8/25/12 at 6:21am

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The difference between a DDC-1T (MCP350) and a 655 is ...

The 655 has better flow with lower head-pressure. Good for no restrictive loops.

The MCP350 has a little less flow with higher head-pressure. Good for loops with some restrictions.

If a retail performance top is added to the DDC-1T, then the flow is increased and the head-pressure is better. a win-win overall.

True, the DDC is a smaller size with a good punch for pumping. This allows better placement in a case and can sit in more places.

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