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I know what you were referring to. SPD Tool is a very helpful little program for doing just this.
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If you go Haswell, try the new single sided Hynix MFR kits...no other ram will be as good as psc for 2d benching, but for your usage, yeah.

Hynix MFR? What is 2d benching? I actually utilize 2400mhz, streaming is extremely ram intensive and I get a significant (especially for the price) increase in FPS using 2400mhz RAM over 2000mhz. I tested it, unofficially. Many guides by prominent streamers also say for a proper stream you really need at least 2133mhz.
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If you go Haswell, try the new single sided Hynix MFR kits...no other ram will be as good as psc for 2d benching, but for your usage, yeah.

PSC is funky on the HW man.. still good, but not the "go to" like on IB.. I would really have to say Sammies are where its at.. the extra 200-300mhz you can get over the PSC is just killing it in my opinion. Sure these other guys can prove me wrong though [they got some damn good PSC] tongue.gif

How do you know PSC is funky on haswell ('hw', is that what we're calling it now?)? There hasnt even been anyone to report haswell delidded yet. People said Ivy could only overclock to 4.7ghz at first, before delidding became a thing, too.

Anyways I don't quite know what hynix MFR kits are. What is this hynix able to overclock around to, what's is max voltage (i assume it's the same ~1.75-1.85v as any other ram on air, ie stay under 70C basically), and what's the price? I don't want to pay out the butt prices, PSC is so great because for 4x2GB sticks you pay $50 for RAM that'll do 2400mhz CL8-13-8-29 1.8v or better (though it's getting harder to find), even Crucial Low Profile 1600 CL8 1.35v is $70 2x4gb 2100 CL11 1.7v and Samsung Miracle, I dont even want to guess what price they are at these days.

But sammies could only do like 2133mhz CL11 1.65v (they can't do more than 1.65v because it's dangerous on them, right? im not exactly sure, i am sure they can't hit 2400 CL8 though)? And they are way more than $50 these days for 8gb, right?

Just checking, I'm not trying to start a huge thing like I did last time. I doubt anything is still better than PSC, but just making sure (I mean really, PSC is over 5 years old and there is still nothing better for the same price and only things better is like 4x more expensive...).

I'm selling my build (sans GPU) for $1200 (it's about $100 more than it's worth) and the buyer is insistent on the RAM. The main reason I wanted haswell was because my ivy's IMC wasn't capable of running the RAM at it's full 2400mhz when in 4x2 config (only in 2x2).
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Belial, the current world record for superpi 32m is done with Hynix MFR on Haswell...3000mhz cl9, but it's a very expensive kit.
Keep your PSC till you can muster the cash for a single sided Hynix MFR kit. Most are 2666 cl11, or 2600 cl11-13-13-35-2t at 1.65v.
Some higher end ones are 2800-2933 but those are more expensive.
You can't ask what 2d benching is in this thread, which is a bencher haven lol
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Belial, the current world record for superpi 32m is done with Hynix MFR on Haswell...3000mhz cl9, but it's a very expensive kit.
Keep your PSC till you can muster the cash for a single sided Hynix MFR kit. Most are 2666 cl11, or 2600 cl11-13-13-35-2t at 1.65v.
Some higher end ones are 2800-2933 but those are more expensive.
You can't ask what 2d benching is in this thread, which is a bencher haven lol

what kit are you speaking of and where did you get the info on the type of RAM 8 pack was running ?
    
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Hynix MFR? What is 2d benching? I actually utilize 2400mhz, streaming is extremely ram intensive and I get a significant (especially for the price) increase in FPS using 2400mhz RAM over 2000mhz. I tested it, unofficially. Many guides by prominent streamers also say for a proper stream you really need at least 2133mhz.
How do you know PSC is funky on haswell ('hw', is that what we're calling it now?)? There hasnt even been anyone to report haswell delidded yet. People said Ivy could only overclock to 4.7ghz at first, before delidding became a thing, too.

Anyways I don't quite know what hynix MFR kits are. What is this hynix able to overclock around to, what's is max voltage (i assume it's the same ~1.75-1.85v as any other ram on air, ie stay under 70C basically), and what's the price? I don't want to pay out the butt prices, PSC is so great because for 4x2GB sticks you pay $50 for RAM that'll do 2400mhz CL8-13-8-29 1.8v or better (though it's getting harder to find), even Crucial Low Profile 1600 CL8 1.35v is $70 2x4gb 2100 CL11 1.7v and Samsung Miracle, I dont even want to guess what price they are at these days.

But sammies could only do like 2133mhz CL11 1.65v (they can't do more than 1.65v because it's dangerous on them, right? im not exactly sure, i am sure they can't hit 2400 CL8 though)? And they are way more than $50 these days for 8gb, right?

Just checking, I'm not trying to start a huge thing like I did last time. I doubt anything is still better than PSC, but just making sure (I mean really, PSC is over 5 years old and there is still nothing better for the same price and only things better is like 4x more expensive...).

I'm selling my build (sans GPU) for $1200 (it's about $100 more than it's worth) and the buyer is insistent on the RAM. The main reason I wanted haswell was because my ivy's IMC wasn't capable of running the RAM at it's full 2400mhz when in 4x2 config (only in 2x2).

2d benching is benching the processor & memory, 3d is gpu benching.

Cl3p has been using haswell longer than most of us, & may have a bit more insight. As far as delidding, hardcore benchers don't delid, they cool the cpu adequately. Ivys were running 6Ghz + before the first person delidded one.
Good new hynix kits are fairly expensive as well, it's still hard to beat the price/performance of PSC & BBSE ebay deals. Except maybe ebay hynix kits, but haven't really looked.
    
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is $150 expensive 420 ?,look @ SPD in my previous post (looks to me like 2666c11 Trident kit )
    
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Don't think 8Pack used MFR for that run, more like CFR if it is the 2666 c11 Trident X kit.
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here,look at SPD
http://www.overclock.net/t/1268061/ocn-ram-addict-club-gallery/1790#post_20125283
this is $150 set and yes it could be CFR (XMP shows 1T) ,will know more once I receive this kit
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is $150 expensive 420 ?,look @ SPD in my previous post (looks to me like 2666c11 Trident kit )

Not to people who play with memory a lot, but looks like he is thinking about whether they can be found used, or lower rated that can match the higher rated kits for less. Like $50.
    
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