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@CL3P nope, it's tWR

I really enjoy clocking RAM on this platform ,much more forgiving
Here is some TeamXc9 (1.65v-could probably go much lower biggrin.gif ) on Win7 rolleyes.gif


Edited by coolhandluke41 - 6/9/13 at 12:00pm
    
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231666

2x4gb Gskill 2400 CL11-13 1.65v for just $63. That's way better than crucial low profiles or samsungs just at stock settings for a cheaper price. amirite.

Someone else asked about those sticks a few days ago in another thread.

I am of the opinion...based on timings and pricing, that those modules are now single-sided MFR and are being made with the Hynix MFR chips that didn't make specs for the higher rated kits (2933 and higher) kits.

For comparison, you look at the Team 2400 kit, the next cheapest 2400 model available at the Egg. I know it is also single-sided MFR. Now look at the other 2400 kits and the pricing goes up way past $100.

The use of these "discarded" MFR chips makes good business sense for them as it allows for the module to be made with only 8 ICs instead of 16, therefore reducing their production costs...resulting in the lower pricing at the Egg.

While it looks attractive at first glance, there is a performance hit from the single-sided stuff, versus double-sided (bank interleave), therefore a double-sided Crucial or Samsung based module will peform better. Will the average Joe be able to tell while surfing the net? Probably not, but anyone looking to run 2400 would probably want to go with double-sided.

Only reason for using single-sided MFR based stuff is for high MHz validations.

Edit: Looking closer at the pics, from what I can see, they don't have the typical PBC for single-sided modules, so it may be that these are using lower binned CFR (those timings don't look like Samsung to me). Then again, I've ordered stuff from the Egg that showed a pic of a D/S module and I received S/S so you can't always go by the pics.

How much of a hit are we talking? I mean really, how do these compare, when overclocked/volted to ~1.8v for a 24/7 air overclock, to PSC at 1.75-1.8v for a 24/7 air at 2400mhz CL8-13-8.

I mean that's my choice right now. I know bank interleave affects performance, but like if these can do 2600 CL9 then that's way better than PSC, even if they lose bank interleave.
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if these can do 2600 CL9 then that's way better than PSC, even if they lose bank interleave.

I don't think they will run those clocks at CL9...or anywhere near them for that matter.

Even then, if you scan the posts of people posting SPi 32M runs with single-sided MFR and then compare to those done on PSC or even Samsung HCH9 you will get an idea of the performance hit. Pretty much the only real value to S/S MFR is high MHz validations. The well-binned stuff will allow you to test the limits of your IMC.

Just look at the posts runs done by coolhandluke41 at #1826 with PSC, then at #1830 with MFR (both at the same CPU clocks), or look at centvalny's post at #1830, compare the times of the one done with Samsung vs the one done with MFR (at 3000).

The MFR runs bring up the rear in all comparisons that I've seen.

Edit:
Also look at this (#1418) for his comparison to the GSkill ECO at 2200, plus some of the other posts around it.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1268061/ocn-ram-addict-club-gallery/1400_40#post_19949124
Edited by Reefa_Madness - 6/9/13 at 1:36pm
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@Reefa_Madness...sure they will run 2600/2666c9 I already run them on Ivy ,wait till you see what they capable @ 2400 first... It gets better ,much better biggrin.gif..still trying to find the limit @ 1.65v lol ( I love this bin )
    
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@Reefa_Madness...sure they will run 2600/2666c9 I already run them on Ivy ,wait till you see what they capable @ 2400 first... It gets better ,much better biggrin.gif..still trying to find the limit @ 1.65v lol ( I love this bin )

You've got the Team 2666 CL11 kit. He's looking at a GSkill 2400 CL11 kit...your's were the top bin at the time they were made and his would be, in my opinion, those that didn't make the grade. I don't think those GSkill will run the same clocks as your Team 2666 will.

So, tell me, not how high are they clocking, but what kind of 32M times are you getting from yours?
Edited by Reefa_Madness - 6/9/13 at 1:38pm
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sorry I was referring to TeamXc9 i'm testing redface.gif
    
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Coming in to this kind of late here and definitely can't read all 93 pages right now - but what is the general consensus on G. Skill Snipers? I've got four 4gb sticks of the 1866 variant. Due to IMC limits right now, only running them at 1600mhz since all 4 slots are full, but I managed to get the cl down to 8 at 1.55v which is just a hair over stock volts - are these worth trying to push for lower timings since I'm not getting 1866mhz out of all 4 on my board?

On top of that, do I get grandfathered in if I still run a pair of DDR 500mhz OCZ Gold VX 512mb sticks in my file server? lol
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TridentX 2600 C10 air



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Edited by centvalny - 6/9/13 at 2:13pm
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TridentX 2600 C10 air

@centvalny, nice, how much voltage needed for 3000+ and are those HYK0, or HCH9 based?

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On top of that, do I get grandfathered in if I still run a pair of DDR 500mhz OCZ Gold VX 512mb sticks in my file server? lol

Made with Winbond UTT (CH5), UnTesTed, which turned out to Test pretty darn good.

Wanna trade those 512MB sticks for some 1GB modules, by chance? smile.gif
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Air eh? You don't happen to have your PC inside a deep freezer do you? laughingsmiley.gif
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