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8Gb -2666C10 anyone ? biggrin.gif
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231593&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-NA-_-NA
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?283863-G.skill-f3-2666c10d-8gtxd
or 16 Gb-2400C9
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231639
P.S. me thinks... there will be some new RAM coming up soon (bargain prices/ high-end RAM start showing up )


Which kit is better for overclocking?

both sets are top of the line Samsung but the 2666C10 set is the one to get
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Guys, i need your help identifying what brand ICs my ram sticks use so i can choose which ones to use. Difficulty: I have only DDR2.

I tried ID'ing the ICs on my Set of Gskill F2-6400CL4D-4GBPKs by popping off the heatspreader, but i got nothing but nearly blank packages. I havent tried doing the same with my Kingstons, mainly because its my first kit of 1066 rated DDR2 (and they are in my main rig), but i think it would be safe to assume kingston uses in-house ICs on their sticks. Lastly i have a kit of OCZ2N800SR4GK sticks, but manually checking the chips on them is impossible due to the fact OCZ used some kind of thermally conductive tape or adhesive to secure the heatspreader, whereas the Gskill and Kingston sets used clamps.

Anyways, the reason i want them ID'd is so i can either: A) Pick the kit of ram that will perform best or B) mix a 2x1GB kit of kingstons and either the OCZ or the Gskills for more ram. Ive tried mixing both the OCZ and the Gskills, and it did not end well. Didnt burn anything but i'm pretty damn sure i reduced the remaining lifespan of my motherboard's NB by a good 2 months from all the juice i was hurling at it (1.58V with active cooling).

TL;DR need IC identification, sticks are as follows

F2-6400CL4D-4GBPK (Gskill 2x2GB DDR2-800 4-4-4-12 2.0-2.1v)
OCZ2N800SR4GK (OCZ 2x2GB DDR2-800 5-4-4-13 2.1v)
KHX8500D2K2/2G (Kingston 2x1GB DDR2-1066 5-5-5-15 2.2V)
KHX8500D2K2/2GN (Kingston 2x1GB DDR2-1066 5-5-5-15 2.2V) (Only difference is it has "SLI Ready" tag on it, they're otherwise identical)

If not, then i'll just leave my kingston's in as they are, and maybe in time i will be able to cough up the extra $65 needed to purchase another kit of the F2-6400CL4D-4GBPKs for more ram, mainly so i can make this comp the best it can possibly be before i finally go up to a newer platform.
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post #313 of 2054
It's near impossible to tell the ICs on low-binned models just by the PN as those get frequently changed.
On G.Skill you can use the "number" technique, on Kingston you can use the "fourth letter technique", but even if you come up with certain maker (like Nanya, for example) there is very little actually known on how those obscure ICs will actually overclock.
I'd recommend you try overclocking them yourself and keep the ones that give you the best results.
post #314 of 2054
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both sets are top of the line Samsung but the 2666C10 set is the one to get


They cost about $80 more. Seems hardly worth the extra money. The difference is 2400mhz CL9 vs 2666mhz CL10. Can either kit over clock?

My Gskill Trident 2400mhz CL10 kit doesn't overclock worth a bean for me. It can run its xmp profile no problem though.
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They cost about $80 more. Seems hardly worth the extra money. The difference is 2400mhz CL9 vs 2666mhz CL10. Can either kit over clock?
My Gskill Trident 2400mhz CL10 kit doesn't overclock worth a bean for me. It can run its xmp profile no problem though.

Could be the cpu's IMC as well, I tried one 3570k & it could not run 2400Mhz memory. 3770k in the same board with the same kit did 2600Mhz easily.
    
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Could be the cpu's IMC as well, I tried one 3570k & it could not run 2400Mhz memory. 3770k in the same board with the same kit did 2600Mhz easily.


Mine can run 2400mhz XMP profile setting no problem.

Granted that it can run XMP profiles at 2400mhz CL9 or 2666mhz CL10 the extra $80 for the 266mhz bump with loser CL timings hardly seems worth $80 more. My big gripe is that my sticks don't over clock and I have read that Gskill did a limited run with double sided kits like mine that do over clock well but the kit that I got is single sided and it has a reputation for not over clocking well. I think my IMC is strong enough to handle these speeds. Its fast with low voltage and runs cool.
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post #317 of 2054
The new Trident X 2400 C9 kit should overclock quite a bit better then the more recent 2400 C10 kits.
You are paying the extra $$ for the bin... and as always with overclocking some kits do better then others.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231638&Tpk=F3-2400C9D-8GTXD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231591&Tpk=F3-2600C10D-8GTXD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231593&Tpk=F3-2666C10D-8GTXD

If you are on a budget I would definitely consider the more affordable C9 kit... Still the 2666C10 is GSkill's current top bin with Samsung ic and it is not cheap. Sell off your 2400C10 kit to help offset your new purchase. Team and Corsair also have some nice kits with Samsung ic but it seems like the nice Team kits are currently OOS/Discontinued. The Corsair kits seem only available at NewEgg in quad (4x4gb) kits.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233392

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233307&Tpk=CMD16GX3M4A2400C9

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233358&Tpk=CMD16GX3M4A2600C10

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233357
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post #318 of 2054
2400C9 is a lot tougher bin for Samsung than 2600C10 so at $100 per kit it's an extreme bargain.
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2400C9 is a lot tougher bin for Samsung than 2600C10 so at $100 per kit it's an extreme bargain.

That is the way I see it.

Need to find some reviews of it. 2400mhz CL9 for $100 seems like alot more bang per buck than 2666mhz CL10 for $180.
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post #320 of 2054
You won't find any reviews, the model is less than one week old.

If you look at all possible candidates for the spec, you can cross Hynix CFR, MFR and Samsung 4Gbit B-rev out, so only possible choice is Samsung 2Gbit D-rev.
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