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post #6661 of 8090
I do not like the timings of 3866, i think 4000 bin is better.

I have a huge problem btw, i cannot install Win7 on Z170 oc formula, how did you managed to install it?
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Originally Posted by IOWA View Post

I do not like the timings of 3866, i think 4000 bin is better.

I have a huge problem btw, i cannot install Win7 on Z170 oc formula, how did you managed to install it?

There is a version floating around that has all the necessary drivers slipped into it. Send a PM to @dhenzjhen.
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are you still window shopping bro ?..biggrin.gif

Nah, I have a 2x4GB set of 3000C15 MFR and a 4x8GB kit of DS MFR. I'm just trying to get time to actually mess with this stuff. Looking to see if Samsung E is something I should invest in.

Samsung are a lot of fun but high end kits are still pricey
    
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Corsair and cheap should not be in the same sentence lololol. Based on what I've read. G.Skill high freq bin is more than likely E-Die.
True dat! I wouldn't be paying dom plat tax, thats for sure.
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Given what D-die and E-die can/cannot do, I would not ever expect E-die on anything below 3866C19 spec-wise.
Ok cool, so anything above that should be E die?
Thanks.
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I do not like the timings of 3866, i think 4000 bin is better.

I have a huge problem btw, i cannot install Win7 on Z170 oc formula, how did you managed to install it?

There is a version floating around that has all the necessary drivers slipped into it. Send a PM to @dhenzjhen.


Try my win7
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Anyone using Geil Super Luce DDR4 RAM?
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Speaking of E-Die... biggrin.gif





Those modules are fancy as hell, too bad your photos are out of focus. Will be interesting to see what else will be available once I transition to a new motherboard with DDR4 support.
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post #6668 of 8090
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I'm just curious, but why don't people increase the tREFI timing (refresh interval)? I maxxed mine out to 32767 on my rampage v and its perfectly stable. I got 2ns reduction in latency according to aida64 as well as better read/write/copy across the board. That should get you better benches. I mean that is the point of this thread, right? or am I wrong?

Because a lot of people don't understand how this timing works
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Because a lot of people don't understand how this timing works

Gotta say, this is the first time I've ever looked into it.
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Memtweakit is counter-intuitive. A larger value = higher performance. A lower value = less performance. Why? Because during a refresh operation, the bank is inaccessible for read/write transactions. Setting a lower value for tREFI results in more frequent refreshes - you can figure what that means easily enough. Setting a value that is too large for the DRAM will result in data becoming corrupt because the charge in the DRAM cells diminishes over time.

A refresh recharges the cells to either a logical 1or 0, whichever value was written to them in the first place. That's above 50% of VDIMM for a logical 1 and below 50% of VDIMM for a logical 0. If the charge in a cell containing a logical 1 falls below 50% of VDIMM, it would be read as a logical 0, and there's your data corruption.

Overall, you wont get much gain by increasing the default value of tREFI in real-world apps. If you're already at 10360 or if that is default for the DIMMs, I'd focus more on the third timings than tREFI.

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I had hard times with my 3200 samsung kit ending in a ****ty 3466c13 as best performance (using hwbotprime). I really do not know how to set 3ary timings and rtls are like 57-51, if i touch them sbam: error 55 mobo.

Upped the voltage to 2.1V (all air cooling) but no good scaling, can bench @3733c15 but never had a stable 3866 not even c19. Am I doing something wrong?

BTW i found these on overclock.uk : http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-067-TG&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=2429

8pack did a good review about them but i do not really like them (for the 1.30-1.45 volt range)
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