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Originally Posted by reggiesanchez View Post

Anyone have anything to say about elpida base/bcse/bfbg


Oh yea you can add me to the list of "wonder ram" fail 3 kits max out @ 2200 c10 1.6

I have not tested any of those ic's however the BDBG I had was great for high mhz validations, that's about it since they were single sided 1GB dimms.

Have you tried a different board?
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If we're talking about 1Gbit ICs (1Gb/side) then DJ-F version of BASE is rubbish, the other version is well known Hypers. The 2Gbit version of BASE is also crap.
BCSE only exist as 2Gbit ICs, quality varies a lot - from inability to do 933MHz, to 1100+ at 9-9-9.
BFBG - I only know the 1Gbit version, not too good (1066MHz 9-12-11 at best).
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i7-3770K, Z77X-UD5H (F15 newest bios), 2x2gb Mushkin Enhanced Ridgeback Blackline 996902 2000mhz cl7-10-8-27 1.65v PSC XDZ014A3G-A

So trying to finetune a RAM overclock but I'm not as familiar with the secondary and tertiary timings. Basically for the main timings I've got 2400mhz CL8-12-8-27 1.75v (not one less on any one of those timings, and 1.75v is more stable than 1.7v i believe, unless maybe its the timings but i'll test 1.7v later). My VTT/IMC is at auto, I don't think setting them to 1.2v/1.15v is necessary.

I'm having a bit of difficulty passing a lengthy period of prime95, like I'm failing my overclocks around 2 hours now (i've been able to gradually push it back and back) but 2 hours stable is nothing close to 24 hour stable and I'm sure it's just a timing or two in there that are being a problem rather than just being so far off.

So I've basically set my RAM to their stock timings as if they were running no profile, 1333mhz CL9 1.5v (which is tighter than the XMP settings, by a significant margin), but a few timings had to be scaled back basically to what the ram or mobo automatically sets when you have 2400mhz as your speed.

Here's a few benches I got with 5ghz cpu, but when im stress testing this ram I just run stock cpu, stock everything really. Do these numbers look right to all of you? I have no frame of reference but the effciency score in tweakit and memory latency in maxmemm seem wrong or something, or too good.



My slew rates are set to 2/2, I just know 2-3 is the right spot to be for PSC. I don't know how much it affects stability of timings or performance though (the new slew rates in the new bios did allow me to push 2600mhz on this ram though, although that required like 9/13/9/30 and i was struggling not to fail in the first 5 minutes of p95 on that, and that was on all auto timings for 2nd/3rd timngs which are looser than what the board sets automatically even for 2400mhz.

I set twl aka twcl so match my timing, but it seems I can only do 7-8 with it (ie 9 is unstable, even with CL9s).

I set my wwdd from 3 (1333 setting) to 5 (just shy of 6 from auto on 2400mhz) and it passed 2 hours of prime95, so now I'm testing it at 6 (which I should have done instead of trying to do 5)... but not really sure what to loosen and where and what.

edit: you know i can't figure out what the max ram temps are for psc. hard to find a max temp for ram in general. for some reason I'm thinking it's 50-60*C? My ram is running about 41-48*C, i got a diode in there.
Edited by Belial - 2/28/13 at 6:31pm
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Leave it to the French to add a new twist to the notion of a "hot" heat spreader. smile.gif

Once again, wyjeba, you've posted some unique samples. I like it (so much that I saved a copy of your pic).


Edit #1:
...and like PolRoger, I'm also curious about the Silicon Power module. Never seen one of theirs either. Where are they located and what is their primary market?

Edit #2:
Another question about those limited addition Crucial French Edition, is the pic right before it the other side of the module...the red one with "Ballistix Tracer DDR3"?

The above is an earlier post of mine. So what do I see in today's promo email from the Egg?



Seems like they are carrying a small selection, plus Amazon has some, too. I just found it sort of ironic to in such a short time go from never having even heard of it to it (the brand) now available at the Egg.
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I set my slew rates to 3 and 3, and i changed tRas to 28. I think tRas is why i was failing, besides 8+12+8=28 and ive read that it has to be like that. I dont understand, does setting slew rates affect performance at all? what is the difference in 2 vs 3?
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'slew' is "additive" latency..

 

 From my understanding of it - you can achieve similar results by loosening timings.. Slew is helpful though for me, when RAM dividers are maxxed out, RAM speed is maxxed out.. and I need more FSB/bclk ! Adding slew to RAM in that scenario, adds latency without changing the timing set. This can help keep your bandwidth and latency in stable range as you push for more speed out of IMC/mobo/CPU...

 

 other than that.. I cannot fathom why it would be useful for anything else yet though redface.gif

 

 

**I am not sure what slew affects specifically though.. as all timings are reported correctly, in BIOS & Windows even after adding slew/clock skew.. must be altering some refresh rate within IMC or something...

 

 

 

Quote:

 

 

 I run a set of these in my daily user.. 6-6-6-18 @ 1600mhz .. 1.6v. These sticks are sick indeed.. 2nd favorite, next to my 6-9-6 Gskill PSC.


Edited by CL3P20 - 3/1/13 at 12:00pm
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so... in reality slew rates is basically loosening things or slowing things down for you, hence why so many people think it's awesome and they can boot with something but in reality they can't, and just slew rate is loosening things without them knowing?

So.... should I just not use slew rates for a 24/7 overclock then? I'm not benching here, I'm trying to get my ram stable for 24/7 at 2400mhz CL8 and I just need to finetune a few timings to do it.
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as far as know "slew" is there to help you post/boot at higher frequency and once you boot to windows it doesn't do much

@CL3P20 will they /post boot 2600 ? i have them running 2400 7-11-7 but couldn't get 2600
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