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Originally Posted by Sam OCX View Post

Your voltages are safe.
I'm not sure if the IMC of your 3570K will allow stability at 1300MHz, but you could try less voltage for 1200MHz.
Ver4.13 on Corsair usually implies revision D Samsung (same stuff you see on 2400C9 and 2666C10 Platinums) so 1200 CL10 should be possible with 1.50-1.55V or so.

Thanks for the reply...

I can pass Memtest86+ all day long at 1.55V CL10, however a spi32m causes my machine to hardlock. They only pass at 1.69V or higher. Am I missing something? Would loosening the sub-timings even further possibly lower the voltage requirement? Or is that just related to the main timings...?

I'll see if I can get them to boot at 2600 or higher. Is it possible that my 3570K IMC, doens't even want to do 2400? Or, could a higher VCCIO/VCCSA voltage lower the stress on the IMC allowing a lower vdimm?

Sooo many questions.... man I've never felt like such a noob, but ya gotta start somewhere I guess.

Thanks again.
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Just one other thing Luke have you done a fresh OS install lately?

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Luke try vccio 1.1 and vccsa at 1.1-1.15 I have had very few cpus that need 1.25+ vccsa/vccio and it usually seems to help most on Asus boards.

I was pretesting some 2000 6-9-6 and 2600 8-12-8-28 with ultra tight secondary and tertiaries was only needed 1.83v seems to be a really good set, yet on Asus there was no way 2600 8-12-8 was happening with volts all the way up to 1.88v.

Try the newest bios on the UP7 with PSC, my team mate was running 2500 7-11-7 on good PSC the other day.
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what's the point of all those reference voltages that are ~.75v that i see by the ram voltage section? If raising them is unnecessary what about just lowering them, i mean all voltages low as possible is best right?

Like my ram maxes out at about 49*C, and as I understand, 50*C is the max temp for ram 24/7 overclock (but it's not a huge concern? i mean i've never seen 50+ and usually im at low 40s). So by lowering these erroneous voltages, I could raise my vram voltage to like 1.8, 1.85, and maybe push an even higher/tighter overclock.

On a side note, check this out. Same secondary, tertiaries in both (the big image is my famed 2400mhz cl8-12-8-28 1T 1.75v overclock). I just wanted to see what would be better, 2200mhz on CL7 vs 2400mhz 8-12-8-28 as I've managed. Just to make sure that my overclock meant something, that loosening my ram a bit wasn't just a huge loss in performance and was at the exact same place I was. 2200 7-10-8-27 isnt anywhere near stable (few crashes during the test, and yes at 1.75v still), it's basically just my default ram timings stepped up to 2200 so I could compare 2200 mhz CL7 vs 2400 CL8-12-8-28.






As you can see, a huge performance boost in my 2400 CL8 over 2200 CL7 (and very big over 2000 7-10-8-27). So now I can rest easy that my ram overclock and timings are as fast as I can possibly get them. I think I pointed out to someone else, as a rule of thumb in overclocking for each step up in speed you dont want to loosen all major timings more than once (in my case, i loosened cl 7 to 8, and the 2nd from 10 to 12 but 3rd stayed same, 4th was up only one when usually it moves by 2-3 because it's such a large number ie ~28).

Within the month I'll be doing some benches, to show how much of a difference this is in streaming+gaming. I'll probably compare 2400 CL8 vs 2000 CL7 vs 1600 CL9, see if a major ram overclock like this by buying ram smartly results in a big performance boost or not.
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post #916 of 8074
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I can pass Memtest86+ all day long at 1.55V CL10, however a spi32m causes my machine to hardlock. They only pass at 1.69V or higher. Am I missing something? Would loosening the sub-timings even further possibly lower the voltage requirement? Or is that just related to the main timings...?

I'll see if I can get them to boot at 2600 or higher. Is it possible that my 3570K IMC, doens't even want to do 2400? Or, could a higher VCCIO/VCCSA voltage lower the stress on the IMC allowing a lower vdimm?

Sooo many questions.... man I've never felt like such a noob, but ya gotta start somewhere I guess.

Thanks again.
Looser subtimings might help you improve your voltage but 1.69 isn't something too dangerious. Try subtimings like on this screenshot.

I've had ten 1200MHz-incapable 3770Ks in a row before I found a decent one, so everything's possible.
Vccio/Vccsa doesn't help much on IB. You have to be at least borderline stable to see benefit of pushing them higher.
post #917 of 8074
So, is that a heatsink that comes with the blue & black Apogee kit? Looks like it bolts down on top, just like a water block or DICE pot. Nice looking kit...how does it clock?
post #918 of 8074


just fooling around during a live event/demo, everything is retail and on normal air
post #919 of 8074
Dang...DDR3-2600 CL6! What kind of voltage required for those clocks?

BTW, what's your take on those Corsair Vengeance Extreme modules? Per the posted info, it would appear that those are single-sided MFR based. The little bit that I've played with with 4GB S/S MFR based modules seemed to indicate that the performance from double-sided CFR based modules was better (at comparable clocks and timings).

(Edited for typo and clarification of comparison to double-sided Hynix CFR based modules)
Edited by Reefa_Madness - 3/21/13 at 5:23pm
post #920 of 8074
This run took 1.97V, but I believe it should also be possible at 1.93-1.94.
As the board was giving "55"s out on random and I was in front of live crowd, I had to push a little more voltage in just to make sure I don't fail.

EDIT: Vengeance Extreme is nothing more than a prestige product with no real-life applications.
Edited by Sam OCX - 3/21/13 at 3:50pm
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