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post #111 of 120
6/11/12 at 8:14am
Dear Customers,

We are happy to announce the 660 is finally ready for you mainstream joes. However, if we make it available, you won't want our leftover 570 anymore (trust us on this; the 660 is a pretty sweet deal); so would you do us a solid and help clear out those stocks while there's still a reason to buy them? Your purchase will hasten the 660's release and help avoid a most unfortunate fire sale. Everyone wins. Well, except you. Take one for the team.

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post #112 of 120
6/11/12 at 12:56pm
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How is something largly full of facts, but not practical. Please learn the definition of words before you use them. I agree that 1080p is the standard, but I know for a fact that when running HD textures in 1080p I reach a VRAM limit on a 1GB card. Current setup is 1440p, and with HD textures I wouldn't imagine going under 4GB as devs are focusing more and more on visual fadelity, especially in the area of mapping things to VRAM.

you say full of facts and then say you wouldn't imagine doing something.

so you don't have fact to back that up, just what you think.

again, my point was we hear a lot of talk about VRAM limits, but rarely do you ever see a real person having VRAM troubles. i read an awful lot of "oh you need more VRAM than that!" but i don't read a lot of people who have a problem caused by lack of VRAM.

honestly it all reads like a sales pitch, and wouldn't surprise me one bit if it originated from nvidia or ati.

and i have to really disagree with you about developers trying to utilize higher end components, like a graphics card with excessive VRAM. devs consistently release games that are modified by the community to have HD texture packs and better visual effects. devs are leaning towards making games more accessible rather than better looking.

if you want evidence, check crysis vs. crysis 2.

just because you were sold on "moar VRAMS!" doesn't mean that you actually need them.
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6/11/12 at 1:42pm
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you say full of facts and then say you wouldn't imagine doing something.
so you don't have fact to back that up, just what you think.
again, my point was we hear a lot of talk about VRAM limits, but rarely do you ever see a real person having VRAM troubles. i read an awful lot of "oh you need more VRAM than that!" but i don't read a lot of people who have a problem caused by lack of VRAM.
honestly it all reads like a sales pitch, and wouldn't surprise me one bit if it originated from nvidia or ati.
and i have to really disagree with you about developers trying to utilize higher end components, like a graphics card with excessive VRAM. devs consistently release games that are modified by the community to have HD texture packs and better visual effects. devs are leaning towards making games more accessible rather than better looking.
if you want evidence, check crysis vs. crysis 2.
just because you were sold on "moar VRAMS!" doesn't mean that you actually need them.

Uh, yeah. My GTX 560 ti can't handle Ultra textures on BF3 due to the fact it has 1 GB of VRAM.
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6/11/12 at 1:51pm
I also hit vram limits on bf3 with dual 6870s. But a problem no i just turn textures down.
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6/11/12 at 2:02pm
i play bf3 all ultra 2x msaa, hbao, fxaa injector and it runs fine, vram is usually at 1220 usage but I think bf3 would use 8888mb if you had it.

570 is a great card, and if they lower prices further..even better!
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6/11/12 at 2:06pm
price point doesnt make sense. they better just hand these out for 200 and include a slice of pie.
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6/11/12 at 2:17pm
I think the problem is that if the GTX 570 were to drop to $200-$225 range it would require a massive shift of almost all other last generation cards with a GTX 560 for example being around $130-$150 and so on and so on with other cards like the GTX 560 ti, 550 ti and most of the Radeon 6xxx series changing their prices to fall inline under the current generation cards..That means that for the first time in awhile a $130 card or maybe a $160 card could play literally any game at 1080p with all but the most memory heavy settings maxed at pretty high fps(High Res Texture packs,AA,Etc. Would be disabled or reduced)There higher level card sales would be devastated and most of the sales of the high end cards would be for the people that absolutely must max out every setting or play on multiple monitors.. If there were newer games coming out that would require the power of the current generation cards then the sales would stay steady but since it's a pretty slow period in terms of graphics improvement in the next few months, the GTX 570 at $200 would be perfect for ALMOST all gamers.. Just my opinion as to why a large price drop is not going to happen, Even though I think it should because most people don't want to pay $300-$400 to play there games at max..
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post #118 of 120
6/11/12 at 5:51pm
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I think the problem is that if the GTX 570 were to drop to $200-$225 range it would require a massive shift of almost all other last generation cards with a GTX 560 for example being around $130-$150 and so on and so on with other cards like the GTX 560 ti, 550 ti and most of the Radeon 6xxx series changing their prices to fall inline under the current generation cards..That means that for the first time in awhile a $130 card or maybe a $160 card could play literally any game at 1080p with all but the most memory heavy settings maxed at pretty high fps(High Res Texture packs,AA,Etc. Would be disabled or reduced)There higher level card sales would be devastated and most of the sales of the high end cards would be for the people that absolutely must max out every setting or play on multiple monitors.. If there were newer games coming out that would require the power of the current generation cards then the sales would stay steady but since it's a pretty slow period in terms of graphics improvement in the next few months, the GTX 570 at $200 would be perfect for ALMOST all gamers.. Just my opinion as to why a large price drop is not going to happen, Even though I think it should because most people don't want to pay $300-$400 to play there games at max..

It wouldn't require a massive shift of all the 500 series, as they don't have overstock of all of them it seems. It would be just like any clearance sale with anything else, it effects that one particular product because that one particular product needs to be moved. When the product or sale is over, that is it, done.
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6/11/12 at 6:25pm
Sell them for 200 right under 7850...... imo
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6/11/12 at 6:39pm
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