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6/10/12 at 5:31am

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From all these varying sources on the Internet I have heard that Ivy Bridge has had serious problems because Intel went on the cheap with the IHS. I want to know if these claims are as grave as everyone has made them out to be. Also, if the rumors are true, if I wanted to buy an Ivy Bridge processor how would I keep it cool. What temperatures are safe for a microprocessor? I tend to freak out over my 2500k passing 50C. Thanks in advance for the information and advice.

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Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo	Windows 7 Pro x64	2x Asus VS239H-P	Cooler Master CM Storm Quick Fire Rapid
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6/10/12 at 7:42am

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Ivy Bridge is an improvement over Sandy Bridge. The only downside is that it gets rather hot when you overclock it by a large amount.
A 4.3GHz OC on IB will usually not get your CPU too hot, but you'll need to know what you're doing when you want a 4.7+GHz OC, plus you'll need decent cooling, just like every other 4.7+GHz OC on any platform. Usually, on air cooling, you can get to a 4.4-4.5GHz OC, and a 4.6GHz if you're lucky. Anything above that will require either a CLC (closed loop cooler, such as the H100) or a custom watercooling build.

But if you're already freaking out if you're SB gets past 50 at times (which is perfectly normal in some situations such as stresstesting or gaming on an OCed CPU), you'd best stay with SB because with IB you'll die of fear (read: for no reason).

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Crucial M4 512GB	External optical drive	Swiftech MCR420-QP 480 Radiator	Yate Loon D12SL-12 1350RPM x15
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i7 3930K C2 @4.7GHz	ASUS Rampage IV Extreme/BF3	ASUS Radeon HD 7970	12GB Corsair Dominator 1600MHz memory
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Crucial M4 128GB	7 TB External HDDs	2.2 TB HDDs in Raid0	Black Ice GT Stealth 360
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Swiftech Apogee HD	7x Yate Loon D12SL-12	XSPC X2O 750 Dual Bay Reservoir+Pump	Phobya Nano-G 14 Silent Waterproof 140mm - 1000rpm
Cooling	Cooling	OS	Monitor
10MM (3/8) Compression Fitting Gripz Style - G1...	PVC Tube 3/8 ID (10mm ID -13 mm OD ) - 2 meter ...	Windows 7 Ultimate	LG 37LF2500
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Logitech G15	Corsair HW 750W	Cooler Master Cosmos II	Razer Naga
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Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	Cooling
Crucial M4 512GB	External optical drive	Swiftech MCR420-QP 480 Radiator	Yate Loon D12SL-12 1350RPM x15
Cooling	Cooling	Cooling	Cooling
Alphacool VPP655 -T12 x2	Alphacool Repack - Dual Laing D5 - Dual 5,25 Ba...	DangerDen Delrin 90° G1/4 connector	EK-FB KIT RE4 - Acetal+Nickel EN
Cooling	Cooling	Cooling	Cooling
EK-FC Bridge DUAL Parallel	EK-FC7970 - Nickel EN Acetal x2	EK-FC7970 Backplate - Black x2	EK-VGA I/O bracket HD7970 x2
Cooling	Cooling	OS	Monitor
Feser Tube UV - HighFlow - 3/8 ID - 1/2 OD - BLACK	Lamptron FC9 Fan Controller 4-channel 50W FC-9-...	Windows 7 Ultimate x64	Samsung Syncmaster S27A750D x2
Monitor	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
IIYAMA G2773HDS-GB1	LG 37LF2500	Razer Blackwidow Ultimate	Corsair AX1200W
Case	Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio
Mountain Mods Ascension	Razer Mamba	Razer Goliathus Extended Control Edition	ASUS ROG Phoebus 9.1 Soundcard
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CM Storm Sirus 5.1 Headset	Teufel Concept E 400 Digital Media 5.1 Surround...	Canon MG6250 MultiFunctional Printer
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i7 3930K C2 @4.7GHz	ASUS Rampage IV Extreme/BF3	ASUS Radeon HD 7970	12GB Corsair Dominator 1600MHz memory
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Cooling
Crucial M4 128GB	7 TB External HDDs	2.2 TB HDDs in Raid0	Black Ice GT Stealth 360
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Swiftech Apogee HD	7x Yate Loon D12SL-12	XSPC X2O 750 Dual Bay Reservoir+Pump	Phobya Nano-G 14 Silent Waterproof 140mm - 1000rpm
Cooling	Cooling	OS	Monitor
10MM (3/8) Compression Fitting Gripz Style - G1...	PVC Tube 3/8 ID (10mm ID -13 mm OD ) - 2 meter ...	Windows 7 Ultimate	LG 37LF2500
Keyboard	Power	Case	Mouse
Logitech G15	Corsair HW 750W	Cooler Master Cosmos II	Razer Naga
Mouse Pad	Audio	Other	Other
Steelseries SK Gaming Mouse Pad	Creative HS 1200	NZXT 12x Red LED Sleeve - 1M	NZXT 12x Red LED Sleeve - 1M
Other	Other	Other	Other
BitFenix PCIe 6-Pin to 6-Pin Cable - 45 cm - Pr...	BitFenix USB 2.0 internal extension - 30 cm - P...	BitFenix PCIe 8-Pin to 8-Pin Cable - 45 cm - Pr...	Sweex US011 4-poorts USB Hub
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6/10/12 at 8:07am

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My 4.4ghz 3570k @ 1.22v hits max of 80c on prime, which is perfectly fine for testing. Never goes above 60c when gaming, on a cheap lil evo I'm happy

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
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Crucial M4 256gb	WD Caviar Blue 1TB	Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO	Windows 7 Home Premium x64
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6/10/12 at 8:35am

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I run my 3570K at 4.1 and the last temps from playing BF3 maxed out for a couple hours shows max core temps: 48C, 50C, 48C, 47C

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6/10/12 at 9:10am

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You should be perfectly fine if you´re not pushing over 1.35 V.

I would say IB is the better Cpu for OC in low overcklocking range. 4,2 Ghz running cool and fast with my 3770k.

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6/10/12 at 9:22am

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Quote:

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You should be perfectly fine if you´re not pushing over 1.35 V.
I would say IB is the better Cpu for OC in low overcklocking range. 4,2 Ghz running cool and fast with my 3770k.

I would say up to 4.5ghz, their overclocking potential is the same. THEN you run into the IHS problem, which can be countered with a closed loop, as previously stated. SB also gains a lot of heat from overclocking but not nearly as much so fast. My 2500k when i've overclocked it to 5.2ghz or so gets to 90C, which is seriously pushing it. The same IB chip would most likely Die.

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Mushkin Enhanced Blackline Frostbyte DDR3	OCZ Agility 4 256GB	OCZ Agility 4 256GB	LG Super/Multi DVD+RW DL
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Mushkin Enhanced Blackline Frostbyte DDR3	OCZ Agility 4 256GB	OCZ Agility 4 256GB	LG Super/Multi DVD+RW DL
Cooling	OS	Monitor	Keyboard
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6/10/12 at 1:55pm

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What cooler should I get if I only want to run the 3570k at a mild 4.0Ghz?

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Intel Core i5 3570k @ 4.2GHz	ASRock Z77 Extreme4	Evga GeForce GTX 670 FTW	Samsung 8GB (2 x 4GB) @ 1866MHz
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB	Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB	WD 2TB External	Toshiba 3TB External
Cooling	OS	Monitor	Keyboard
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo	Windows 7 Pro x64	2x Asus VS239H-P	Cooler Master CM Storm Quick Fire Rapid
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Intel Core i5 3570k @ 4.2GHz	ASRock Z77 Extreme4	Evga GeForce GTX 670 FTW	Samsung 8GB (2 x 4GB) @ 1866MHz
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Hard Drive
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB	Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB	WD 2TB External	Toshiba 3TB External
Cooling	OS	Monitor	Keyboard
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo	Windows 7 Pro x64	2x Asus VS239H-P	Cooler Master CM Storm Quick Fire Rapid
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6/10/12 at 7:52pm

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You won't need more than a hyper 212+ or Evo. They're around $30.

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6/10/12 at 8:33pm

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Just for reference I run a custom loop 3570k@4.5 Ghz right now and top out at 57-59C in prime95.

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Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
Intel X25-M 160GB	Western Digital Caviar 1TB Black 7200RPM 32MB C...	Samsung Super DVD Writer	Swiftech Apogee XT Rev2
Cooling	Cooling	Cooling	Cooling
Swiftech 360mm XP radiator and Swiftech 240mm X...	Swiftech MCP-35x pump	Swiftech Reservoir Rev2b	EK HD6970 Water Block Non-Reference
Cooling	OS	Monitor	Keyboard
Primochill 1/2" ID/ 3/4" OD tubing	Windows 7 x64 Professional	HP 27"	Logitech G19
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Intel X25-M 160GB	Western Digital Caviar 1TB Black 7200RPM 32MB C...	Samsung Super DVD Writer	Swiftech Apogee XT Rev2
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Swiftech 360mm XP radiator and Swiftech 240mm X...	Swiftech MCP-35x pump	Swiftech Reservoir Rev2b	EK HD6970 Water Block Non-Reference
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6/10/12 at 8:54pm

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they are ok, don´t worry, just get a cheapo hyper212+ or evo, and good case

mine does 4.5 @1.27

with 60ª gaming,
70-75 prime,
80-85 linx, intel burn
30 iddle

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
intel 3570k@4.4@1.25	gigabyte z77z-ud3h	gigabyte gtx460 768mb oc 850/2100	8gb ddr3 1600 corair vengeance blue
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samsung 500gb hd502hj, 2x crucial m4 64gb raid 0	sony optiarc 24x	hyper 212+	win8 x64
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samsung 500gb hd502hj, 2x crucial m4 64gb raid 0	sony optiarc 24x	hyper 212+	win8 x64
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