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So i bought my upgrade x79 extrene9, 3820, corsair vengeance, hyper412(need it to tie me over till noctua send me my 2011 brackets) put everything in and nothing, checked everything was plugged in right and replugged the psu and crackled then a loud pop...

Just wanted to ask if this is normal wear and tear(hx620 bought feb 2008) or I was underpowered.

my specs before upgrade (mostly below and then some):
gigabyte ep35 ds4
q6600
2x2gb transcend
2x2gb corsair xms
noctua nh d14
power color 6950 pcs++ (using 6950 bios)
asus xonar essensce stx ( front panel not plugged)
df-85 ( only using 2 of the front panel usb2)
linksys wireless n adapter
logitech g110 keyboard
razer naga epic mouse
1x500gb hdd
1x1.5tb hdd
2x2tb hdd
1xdvd writer
1xbd writer
i got the ssd front caddy plugged but no drive in it.


upgrade is above with mobo ram cpu and cooler swapped to:
asrock x79 extreme9
2 2x4gb corsair vengeance low profile
3820
cm hyper412
1x intel 330 ssd 180gb added. this is confirmed working since i plugged it in last week and it works.

edit: just to be complete. for the new build i plugged the hd audio to the stx and used the 4pin 12v did not plug this in previously.

I powered the pc b4 upgrade and it wont post for awhile power on fans run but wont post (kind of like trying to wake from sleep and failing like my old gb board.). I tried to replug the power plugs then it booted. did a bunch of stuff in windows but nothing intensive. powered down then performed the upgrade. after the upgrade it wont power up replugged and it crackled then popped.

btw, I already have an rma number for this. waiting on their reply to my mail on whether i should send the whole box with all accessories or just the psu(yep still got the box wid everything not plugged to the pc in good condition on the shelf) ust wanted to make sure im not underpowered. ocn psucalc says i need 615watts but just want to be sure ( cant be 100% sure as i dont have a pc. typing on mobile.)

thanks.
Edited by Famia - 6/10/12 at 6:35am
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That PSU wouldn't be ideal for your setup, I would recommend at least 750-850, but as for it dying when you plugged it in,

This wouldn't be caused by you overloading your PSU with peripherals, it has over voltage protection and auto-shutoff features. Whats the Warranty on that PSU? I know Corsair has a 7 year Warranty on some of them, including mine., ( AX series)

Edit: When I Say this, ( ^^^ ) I'm talking about IDEALLY, you want 750-850, your 620W Should work just fine, though to get the best efficiency out of a PSU it is ideal to run that at 50% load
Edited by StormProtocol - 6/10/12 at 6:45am
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Thanks. That should put ke at ease when the replacement arrives.

It says 5years on the box. already got my rma number from corsair. just want to make sure its not overload due to new gear. and hope it did not take anything with it. no spare psu cant check.

I'n thinking of getting a new psu but for now I want to keep it as long as I can. and the fact that I went overbudget with my build...stupid asrock picky with ram, wont boot with gskill sniper and wanted corsair vengeance before it posts ( stuck at 0x60 for those who want to know). got scared and pulled the trigger for quad channel while I'm still in the store and they can take it back no question instead of waiting
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That PSU wouldn't be ideal for your setup, I would recommend at least 750-850, but as for it dying when you plugged it in,
This wouldn't be caused by you overloading your PSU with peripherals, it has over voltage protection and auto-shutoff features. Whats the Warranty on that PSU? I know Corsair has a 7 year Warranty on some of them, including mine., ( AX series)
Edit: When I Say this, ( ^^^ ) I'm talking about IDEALLY, you want 750-850, your 620W Should work just fine, though to get the best efficiency out of a PSU it is ideal to run that at 50% load
^that's one of the worst posts I've seen on this section of the forum in a long while..

@OP, that's a ~400W system at full load.. you're PSU is more than plenty..
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^that's one of the worst posts I've seen on this section of the forum in a long while..
@OP, that's a ~400W system at full load.. you're PSU is more than plenty..

That was a very rude comment for someone who has added nothing to this thread.

A power supply is the most efficient at 50% load. so although his system would run fine on a 500-550W it is IDEAL ( as I said before) to run it on a 750-850W PSU.

And i'll quote myself here
Quote:
IDEALLY, you want 750-850, your 620W Should work just fine

Suck it dude, seriously...this is uncalled for bashing
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That was a very rude comment for someone who has added nothing to this thread.
A power supply is the most efficient at 50% load. so although his system would run fine on a 500-550W it is IDEAL ( as I said before) to run it on a 750-850W PSU.
And i'll quote myself here
Quote:
IDEALLY, you want 750-850, your 620W Should work just fine
You have no idea what you're talking about, please stop posting.
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Suck it dude, seriously...this is uncalled for bashing
Not my intention to add insult to injury but really... you should quit while you're behind. wink.gif
post #7 of 19
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That PSU wouldn't be ideal for your setup, I would recommend at least 750-850
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When I Say this, ( ^^^ ) I'm talking about IDEALLY, you want 750-850, your 620W Should work just fine, though to get the best efficiency out of a PSU it is ideal to run that at 50% load

It guess where something is "ideal" is subjective in this case. Efficiency are measured at 20%, 50%, and 100% loads and generally at its best around 40%~60% loads. Getting a 620w PSU on a ~400w peak PC means that he will be just above the 60% mark, which in most cases, it will probably still be at or under 60% real life situations. At idled, that systems draws around 115w and peak around 175w during regular uses (around 20% load). Going off by that the load that the TS has on that PSU is "ideal" efficiency-wise. Should the TS want to make use of those two extra PCIe slots for CFX/SLI, then it may be ideal for a larger capacity PSU.

As for the whole 50% part you had mentioned, if one does that all of the time, most of the high-end setup isn't exactly ideal for those who are doing 3-way/4-way SLI on a 1200w PSU. Doing a quick math in my head, GTX680 in 4-way SLI with a SB processor peak around like 850w~900w, so getting a ~1800w PSU is "ideal" in that situation... Quite honestly, I find the whole efficiency thing a bit overstated, as efficiency doesn't drop that much after nearing it designated peak efficiency. If that is something of an importance to you, one should just get a quality PSU with a higher efficiency rating rather than immediately get a larger capacity PSU just to achieve that.
Edited by qwan456 - 6/10/12 at 9:00am
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In the end its also a matter of personal preference, I was going for silence when I built my rig, so I went with the AX1200 so the fan doesnt even turn on at 100% load.

As I said in my original post, your PSU should be fine, its just not ideal IMO.

I could have worded it better but I haven't slept in two days.

Not trying to be stubborn but IMO I'm not entirely wrong and you were out of line.



But to get bashed for me giving my personal advice is kind of insulting honestly. I favor constructive criticism with links to supporting evidence over bashing, but everyone is different
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Maybe someone can provide insight as to why the PSU died in the first place? These are pretty nice PSUs, kind of strange. hopefully the rest of your components are okay.

Good luck

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post #10 of 19
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Not trying to be stubborn but IMO I'm not entirely wrong and you were out of line.
But to get bashed for me giving my personal advice is kind of insulting honestly. I favor constructive criticism with links to supporting evidence over bashing, but everyone is different
Indeed, and that's because you stepped in to offer poor advice based on pseudo knowledge before you even bothered to read a sticky or two on this section of the forum... because if you did, you would have known better... no one is questioning your good intentions and your willingness to help... only your means to do so at this time and on this topic.

ps. your AX1200 doesn't have a semi-fanless fan profile, the fan is On at any load. wink.gif
pps. you could add two more GTX 560s to that setup, for compute work or w/e, and your PSU would still be needlessly oversized.
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