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6/11/12 at 7:05pm
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I would still want 2011 and a 680. 2011 much more potential as a platform.

Only for workstations and CPU intensive work. 670 (which gives similar performance to 670) would be a better buy for GPU. For CPU, IB is the better buy for most general purposes. Unless he explicitly said that hes doing video editing or something similar, 2011 is a waste of money.
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6/11/12 at 7:47pm
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Only for workstations and CPU intensive work. 670 (which gives similar performance to 670) would be a better buy for GPU. For CPU, IB is the better buy for most general purposes. Unless he explicitly said that hes doing video editing or something similar, 2011 is a waste of money.

I don't know anything about the 670 so I'll assume this is true. I assume that people have the potential to do more than use their PC as a gaming platform. Even if he chooses to do so in 6-12 months, he'll have alot more to work with on 2011.

He asked what to do with around $1000. 2011 platform and 6xx is still what I would do with that money. Don't hate.
Edited by 2thAche - 6/11/12 at 7:49pm
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6/11/12 at 9:24pm
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Only for workstations and CPU intensive work. 670 (which gives similar performance to 670) would be a better buy for GPU. For CPU, IB is the better buy for most general purposes. Unless he explicitly said that hes doing video editing or something similar, 2011 is a waste of money.

I don't know anything about the 670 so I'll assume this is true. I assume that people have the potential to do more than use their PC as a gaming platform. Even if he chooses to do so in 6-12 months, he'll have alot more to work with on 2011.

He asked what to do with around $1000. 2011 platform and 6xx is still what I would do with that money. Don't hate.

He is kinda right though. At the sub-$2k price point for most people, using anything but 1155 makes no sense. If you have money to burn, or need massive multi-threaded power for rendering and stuff like that, LGA2011 is great. But again, for most people, the money spent on a decent SB-E setup can be better used with a IB/SB setup with more GPU power for the same money. Remember, decent X79 boards are still $250+, where as a decent Z68/Z77 board can be had for around $150.
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6/11/12 at 9:26pm
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Reading your sig rig specs, I can tell you're the person who would argue that if you're driving an M3 on the street instead of a Sentra, the M3 provides essentially no benefit and is a waste of money.
If people are foolish for choosing a superior platform with more future CPU support and 64GB RAM support, add me to the list of fools.
  • Upgrading a $500+ CPU to get un-noticable, slightly better performance would be foolish(whenever IB-e comes out).
  • For a gaming PC, 64GB of ram is foolish, heck even 16GB of RAM is foolish. Unless the user is editing, running VMs, or using a RAM disk, anything over 6GB is pointless. Normally the suggested is 8GB because it makes it evenly spread.
  • 2011 is not a "far superior platform" it is a slight improvement over sandy bridge and will only be noticed in heavily multi-threaded applications.
  • Gaming is not heavily multi-threaded, there are even games that are not even multi-threaded. So "MOAR CORES" does not make the PC better, especially not in a gaming environment.
  • You will not see a significant improvement in FPS, nor will you see a significant improvement in FPS. It would be better to keep sandy/ivy and save for a better or second GPU.
  • The only thing that 2011 socket provides for gaming is E-PEEN.
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6/11/12 at 9:29pm
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I'd just go with a GTX 580, I5 ivy bridge, $150-200 mobo (gigabyte has a real good one,) and 8gb of ram. Easily in your price range

What he said!
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6/11/12 at 9:34pm
NO i7's.

i5 k series please.
You're wasting your financial aid money if you spend the money on an i7...

Are you near a microcenter?
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6/11/12 at 9:59pm
I'd wait till new GTX 780 comes out, one of those should be good enough for a while, since the 680 can handle most games on the highest settings, I don't see why 780 isn't worth the wait after all they will feature GK110, the only problem is waiting till they actually come out.
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6/11/12 at 10:16pm
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Memory: Samsung 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($488.99 @ Amazon)
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6/12/12 at 2:42am
Do not waste your money on core i7. For gaming i5 provides same performance as i7.

core i5 3570k - USD 240
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

Scythe CPU cooler - USD 50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185173

MSI Z77 Motherboard - USD 150
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130645

CORSAIR 8GB DDR3 1600 RAM - USD 85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233254

Graphics card options
EVGA GTX 670 FTW - USD 420
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130787

or

Sapphire HD 7950 950 Mhz edition - USD 410
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102991


Total = 240 + 50 + 150 + 85 + 420 = USD 945

Both the graphics cards are good options. pick what you prefer. GTX 670 FTW uses ref GTX 680 PCB. very good card. excellent customer support from evga. sapphire HD 7950 950 mhz edition uses ref HD 7970 PCB. 8pin + 6 pin power. fantastic card. you could see more about this card here posted by user sonda5

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1695577
Edited by raghu78 - 6/12/12 at 2:44am
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6/12/12 at 2:54am
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Do not waste your money on core i7. For gaming i5 provides same performance as i7.

core i5 3570k - USD 240
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

Scythe CPU cooler - USD 50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185173

MSI Z77 Motherboard - USD 150
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130645

CORSAIR 8GB DDR3 1600 RAM - USD 85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233254

Graphics card options
EVGA GTX 670 FTW - USD 420
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130787

or

Sapphire HD 7950 950 Mhz edition - USD 410
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102991


Total = 240 + 50 + 150 + 85 + 420 = USD 945

Both the graphics cards are good options. pick what you prefer. GTX 670 FTW uses ref GTX 680 PCB. very good card. excellent customer support from evga. sapphire HD 7950 950 mhz edition uses ref HD 7970 PCB. 8pin + 6 pin power. fantastic card. you could see more about this card here posted by user sonda5

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1695577

This is good.
But iono why the ram is so expensive!!!!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007611%20600006050%20600006127%20600006069&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20

I would pick one of these two
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148544
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231544
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