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post #11 of 47
6/11/12 at 3:30am
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I don't see how the SGS2 is better...the Xperia S is better. I'm not sure the people commenting here have actually used the Xperia S.
  • The screen is definitely bright and has great viewing angles. The blacks I've seen while not exceptional aren't 'poor' either.
  • The HD screen is a nice bonus.
  • The camera is MUCH better than the SGS2, Sony's smartphone cameras have always been top notch (at least in the Xperia line).
  • Software support is there, and Sony also help developers out with Betas of ROMs, any assistance they need etc.
  • As for the CPU it's a 1.5GHz dual-core, so it's no slouch. Unless you look at benchmarks all day there's no point comparing the two as they both do their job equally well
  • Then comes the design of the phone, which is personal preference

1 - Screen on the S2 while lower in resolution is still much much better, better colors and generally all the benefits of S-AMOLED+

2 - True but it kills game performance and depending on what you're doing won't really see that much of a difference day to day.

3. Cameras have been moot point for ages in phones, it's not so much the hardware but the software that drives them.

4. Software support? Are you joking? Sony phones have always had a poor following when it comes to ROMS, My old Xperia X10 is a case in point, and STILL no ICS for the Xperia S, some support ay?

5. My sensation has the exact same chipset and on Ginerbread it lags like a *****, moving to ICS and a GPU accelerated UI made such a difference.

Now for the S2

1. Holding it's value better
2. Much much more support for ROMS etc...etc...
3. Much faster chipset

I could go on and on.....
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post #12 of 47
6/11/12 at 3:42am
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I don't see how the SGS2 is better...the Xperia S is better. I'm not sure the people commenting here have actually used the Xperia S.
  • The screen is definitely bright and has great viewing angles. The blacks I've seen while not exceptional aren't 'poor' either.
  • The HD screen is a nice bonus.
  • The camera is MUCH better than the SGS2, Sony's smartphone cameras have always been top notch (at least in the Xperia line).
  • Software support is there, and Sony also help developers out with Betas of ROMs, any assistance they need etc.
  • As for the CPU it's a 1.5GHz dual-core, so it's no slouch. Unless you look at benchmarks all day there's no point comparing the two as they both do their job equally well
  • Then comes the design of the phone, which is personal preference

The Snapdragon S3 processor on the Xperia S is very slow and choppy. Source: http://www.phonebuff.com/2012/01/snapdragon-s3-exynos-4210-omap-4460-performs-best/
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Snapdragon S3 Vs Exynos 4210 Vs OMAP 4460 – Which Performs Best?

1st place: Not only did the Samsung Exynos 4210 load Google Earth up the fastest, it was the smoothest when zooming in and out of Las Vegas’ 3D buildings.

2nd place: Even though it crashed on us in the video above, the actual performance of the TI OMAP 4460 was much smoother than the Snapdragon while being only a little choppier than the Exynos.

3rd place: While Google Earth crashed on us in the video above on the OMAP processor, in separate tests its crashed on the Snapdragon as well. Therefore, with it being the choppiest out of the three the Snapdragon S3 comes in last.

The Exynos 4210 of the Samsung Galaxy S2 is the fastest dual core processor.

The dual core Snapdragon S3 being 1.5GHz doesn't mean anything. The Snapdragon S3 is very very slow compared to even the OMAP 4460.

This is because the Snapdragon S3 uses outdated architecture.


Also, in terms of the camera, I didn't really notice a difference between my Samsung Galaxy S2 and the Xperia S. Again, the lens and aperature are more important, not the MP.

Overall, the first thing many people consider when buying a smartphone is the smoothness of the UI and design. I find the Samsung Galaxy S2 has the most classy design because it is much thinner than the Xperia S and also rectangle without any extra frills. The Xperia S' design is getting old and I find that the green plastic circle on the back of the Xperia S looks cheap.

In terms of UI smoothness, the Samsung Galaxy S2 is 100X better. Trust me on this. I have tested both smartphones on several occasions (I own a Samsung Galaxy S2) and the SGS2 is much much faster and smoother.
Edited by Koehler - 6/11/12 at 3:47am
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post #13 of 47
6/11/12 at 3:44am
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The Snapdragon S3 processor on the Xperia S is very bad. Source: http://www.phonebuff.com/2012/01/snapdragon-s3-exynos-4210-omap-4460-performs-best/
The Exynos 4210 of the Samsung Galaxy S2 is the fastest dual core processor.
The dual core Snapdragon S3 being 1.5GHz doesn't mean anything. The Snapdragon S3 is very very slow compared to even the OMAP 4460.
This is because the Snapdragon S3 uses outdated architecture.

My S3 chipset actually manages to match or BEAT the S2 now, Qualcom released new drivers for the Adreno 220 in December 2011 and they have massively improved performance!!
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post #14 of 47
6/11/12 at 3:51am
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My S3 chipset actually manages to match or BEAT the S2 now, Qualcom released new drivers for the Adreno 220 in December 2011 and they have massively improved performance!!

The source I quoted was from 2012.

http://www.phonebuff.com/2012/01/snapdragon-s3-exynos-4210-omap-4460-performs-best/

Snapdragon S3 Vs Exynos 4210 Vs OMAP 4460 – Which Performs Best?
Posted In Android, Android Reviews, Reviews - By David Rahimi On Thursday, January 19th, 2012

Watch the video as well. The test involved using GPS and zooming on complex 3D images. It tested both CPU, RAM and GPU.

Even when I tested out the Xperia S a few weeks ago, it still felt noticeably laggier than my SGS2. The menus and applications were all very choppy on the Xperia S.
Edited by Koehler - 6/11/12 at 3:55am
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post #15 of 47
6/11/12 at 4:06am

*Sigh* It seems pointless trying to have a decent discussion with anyone.

 

Okay lets look at it this way:

 

For the processing power: You have a monitor with a refresh rate of 60Hz, and three different graphics cards. In turn, they give FPS of 60, 75 and 120. You cannot tell the difference and there is no benefit to having one over the other, because the screen can only display 60FPS.

Do you get my drift?

For the UI: On my Xperia Arc the upgrade from GB to ICS has brought new life into my 'outdated' single core phone (which, miraculously functions just fine as a smartphone including games, but hey I don't own a smartphone to play games). And the upgrade to ICS IS COMING, and it's been a long time since the X10, which even Sony admits was a flop.

P.S If my interface doesn't lag on a single core, I don't see how it will on a dual-core.

For the screen: The SGS2 screens I've seen (international edition) all have an awful blue tint to them.

For the software support: It's definitely there, go look at the community over at XDA and Sony's forum. You got any problems, they'll answer it for you.

 

Sony have taken a turn for their better in the smartphone department. I was hesitant going with the Arc given Sony's past reputation, but they've made up for it.

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post #16 of 47
6/11/12 at 4:12am
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*Sigh* It seems pointless trying to have a decent discussion with anyone.

Okay lets look at it this way:

For the processing power: You have a monitor with a refresh rate of 60Hz, and three different graphics cards. In turn, they give FPS of 60, 75 and 120. You cannot tell the difference and there is no benefit to having one over the other, because the screen can only display 60FPS.
Do you get my drift?
For the UI: On my Xperia Arc the upgrade from GB to ICS has brought new life into my 'outdated' single core phone (which, miraculously functions just fine as a smartphone including games, but hey I don't own a smartphone to play games). And the upgrade to ICS IS COMING, and it's been a long time since the X10, which even Sony admits was a flop.
P.S If my interface doesn't lag on a single core, I don't see how it will on a dual-core.
For the screen: The SGS2 screens I've seen (international edition) all have an awful blue tint to them.
For the software support: It's definitely there, go look at the community over at XDA and Sony's forum. You got any problems, they'll answer it for you.

Sony have taken a turn for their better in the smartphone department. I was hesitant going with the Arc given Sony's past reputation, but they've made up for it.

The blue tint "problem" is really exaggerated in your post.

It is hardly a problem for me and I can hardly see it. It is a non-issue and most people will tell you that they can't notice it.

Blacks on the Samsung Galaxy S2 come out 100X better. It's the advantages of having a Super AMOLED Plus screen. High contrast and deeper, better blacks really make the Samsung Galaxy S2's screen attractive and vibrant despite it having a lower resolution.
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post #17 of 47
6/11/12 at 5:52am
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Originally Posted by MrAlex View Post

*Sigh* It seems pointless trying to have a decent discussion with anyone.

Okay lets look at it this way:

For the processing power: You have a monitor with a refresh rate of 60Hz, and three different graphics cards. In turn, they give FPS of 60, 75 and 120. You cannot tell the difference and there is no benefit to having one over the other, because the screen can only display 60FPS.
Do you get my drift?
For the UI: On my Xperia Arc the upgrade from GB to ICS has brought new life into my 'outdated' single core phone (which, miraculously functions just fine as a smartphone including games, but hey I don't own a smartphone to play games). And the upgrade to ICS IS COMING, and it's been a long time since the X10, which even Sony admits was a flop.
P.S If my interface doesn't lag on a single core, I don't see how it will on a dual-core.
For the screen: The SGS2 screens I've seen (international edition) all have an awful blue tint to them.
For the software support: It's definitely there, go look at the community over at XDA and Sony's forum. You got any problems, they'll answer it for you.

Sony have taken a turn for their better in the smartphone department. I was hesitant going with the Arc given Sony's past reputation, but they've made up for it.

The blue tint "problem" is really exaggerated in your post.

It is hardly a problem for me and I can hardly see it. It is a non-issue and most people will tell you that they can't notice it.

Blacks on the Samsung Galaxy S2 come out 100X better. It's the advantages of having a Super AMOLED Plus screen. High contrast and deeper, better blacks really make the Samsung Galaxy S2's screen attractive and vibrant despite it having a lower resolution.


That is true, but the blue tint is highly noticeable in the phone my friend has.  But then maybe that's just his phone. Either way you can't exactly go wrong with either screen, since Sony use IPS panels.

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6/11/12 at 7:42am
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1 - Screen on the S2 while lower in resolution is still much much better, better colors and generally all the benefits of S-AMOLED+

LMAO an AMOLED has better colors, really...
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3. Cameras have been moot point for ages in phones, it's not so much the hardware but the software that drives them.

Wrong... it is the cam sensor that does the job...
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4. Software support? Are you joking? Sony phones have always had a poor following when it comes to ROMS, My old Xperia X10 is a case in point, and STILL no ICS for the Xperia S, some support ay?

It has the old MSM7227 architecture which isn't supported by ICS/doesn't work well and it is 2 years old already.... All 2011 line has been updated to ICS.
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6/11/12 at 8:10am
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It has the old MSM7227 architecture which isn't supported by ICS/doesn't work well and it is 2 years old already.... All 2011 line has been updated to ICS.

This, I just downloaded the ICS update for my Arc and flashed it via flashtool (turns out I accidentally flashed the French version, oops biggrin.gif) and it runs smooth as silk on it. Even the CM9 Alpha build was smooth (although it did crash every now and then).
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6/11/12 at 8:35am
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That is true, but the blue tint is highly noticeable in the phone my friend has. But then maybe that's just his phone. Either way you can't exactly go wrong with either screen, since Sony use IPS panels.

Well it's not as bad as you described but, yes, I do admit that slight blue tinting exists on most AMOLED screens (it is a feature of AMOLED screens not a flaw) but it is a non-issue for most.
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LMAO an AMOLED has better colors, really...

Again someone with no idea. AMOLED has higher contrast ratios and deeper blacks. This means AMOLED screens have more vibrant colors and reading text is more enjoyable due to deeper blacks. That is the main advantage of AMOLED screens... higher contrast and this is VERY important when considering screens.
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Wrong... it is the cam sensor that does the job...

Software is still important. You'll be surprised that a lot of laggy/low quality cameras on smartphones are due to software problems, nothing to do with the sensor.
Edited by Koehler - 6/11/12 at 8:50am
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