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I don't care about corn...it's fairly useless to me. Your profession aside, you cannot tell me that corn is an essential food for cows, or humans, anyone who claims such, is lying. Corn is not a vital crop, and it, like grains, ruin topsoil. A cow isn't intended to subsist off of a diet of corn and grain, and neither are we. The whole point I was making is that it's this overproduction of the two that are killing the planet(killing it's usefulness to humans at least). We've ruined something like 90+% of the pasture land we once had with GMO monocrops.Originally Posted by Solarin 
It is not due to natural price inflation. The pricing spike occurred around '06 and the price has increased dramatically over the course of the next 6 years. You are also getting a little conspiracy theorist on me with Monsanto. They do not have a monopoly on the corn market.
While it is true that corn given to the degree that they are in a finishing operation causes fat to be developed, you must understand that this is the intended outcome. A finishing period is a very small, intensive period of time right before a cow is sent to the sales barn. The diet is not intended for prolonged feeding. Grain can cause acidosis if fed incorrectly, but it is not endemic to just corn. Amylolytic bacteria in the rumen prefer an acidic environment. Feeding excessive CHOs with high surface area will result in acidosis and bloat. Ecoli does not occur in the cow's rumen (or any other of their stomachs), where a large majority of digestion occurs. Cows become sickly from acidosis from the depletion of methanogenic and proteolytic bacteria in the rumen which are necessary for nutrient production. There is concrete science behind the feeding of livestock, and you need to remove this idea of hapless hillbillys throwing corn at their livestock willy-nilly without an concept of what the systemic effect is on the organism.
Please clarify your statement about antibiotics then.
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No it is not around 20-25 years. If that "umteen years" was around 20-25 that just natural inflation. More than 25 years and it means the price would actually have gone down.
And any price increase is likely due to Monsanto monopolizing the corn industry, not due to excess demand.
And any price increase is likely due to Monsanto monopolizing the corn industry, not due to excess demand.
It is not due to natural price inflation. The pricing spike occurred around '06 and the price has increased dramatically over the course of the next 6 years. You are also getting a little conspiracy theorist on me with Monsanto. They do not have a monopoly on the corn market.
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Ryboto, in a TMR (Total Mixed Ration), corn is a "filler" feed to bolster ME in the ration. However, it is not a filler in the sense that they just needed something to take up space. It is not nutrient poor either, and I'm not sure how you can qualify that statement. I am a nutritional chemist that has worked in the animal science industry for years. I can tell that you are arguing about things you do not fully understand. My intention is not to offend you, but allow me to clarify some things.Solarin, Corn is definitely a filler. It's nutrient poor, and isn't something cattle would naturally feed on. Corn and grains cause the cows to develop more fat than they would on grass, and the fat profile is unhealthily tipped in the Omega 6 scale. In addition, grain feeding raises the acidity of the cows stomach, and ecoli can grow, vs grass feeding where the concentration of ecoli in cow's digestive tracts are many times lower. I did not say they're given antibiotics because they are fat.
While it is true that corn given to the degree that they are in a finishing operation causes fat to be developed, you must understand that this is the intended outcome. A finishing period is a very small, intensive period of time right before a cow is sent to the sales barn. The diet is not intended for prolonged feeding. Grain can cause acidosis if fed incorrectly, but it is not endemic to just corn. Amylolytic bacteria in the rumen prefer an acidic environment. Feeding excessive CHOs with high surface area will result in acidosis and bloat. Ecoli does not occur in the cow's rumen (or any other of their stomachs), where a large majority of digestion occurs. Cows become sickly from acidosis from the depletion of methanogenic and proteolytic bacteria in the rumen which are necessary for nutrient production. There is concrete science behind the feeding of livestock, and you need to remove this idea of hapless hillbillys throwing corn at their livestock willy-nilly without an concept of what the systemic effect is on the organism.
Please clarify your statement about antibiotics then.
About Ecoli, you'll have to be specific, I am reading things online stating Ecoli is present in cows rumen, though it might not be where it originated
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